For all of us bitter people who couldn’t get an RPi 3 let alone 4 for less than a fortune during the recent dark times…
We’d like to thank you: we’re going to ringfence all of the Raspberry Pi 5s we sell until at least the end of the year for single-unit sales to individuals, so you get the first bite of the cherry.
So I will probably preorder one because why not.
“we notice everyone is having trouble getting our previous model due to scalpers, so we released a new version at double the price!”
/s
Does anyone know if the R5 will fit in the Raspberry Pi 400 keyboard case?
Even Rpi4 doesn’t fit in the rpi400 keyboard case. They are different products
What does that mean?
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@bappity @asexualchangeling sadly duck duck go is basically just a bing proxy
No need to be an ass about it. For those who don’t want to sift through an article, the RPi Foundation apparently hired an ex-cop who had been known to use their products to conduct surveillance, and that caused a controversy.
Thanks for the info, I will say I did chuckle from OP’s response but this is infinitely more useful.
“Raspberry Pi eats babies”.
Well – they never really backed down on what they did. Far as we know the out-and-proud espionage cop is still in their payroll, and the only response they ever gave to the story was a generalised ‘We think the entire thing is being astroturfed and that no one reasonable is ACTUALLY against us hiring this guy who bragged about all the espionage he did’ back in the day.
They never said anything about it since. So it’s fair to assume they still believe in what they did.
Great, more unobtainium
Have they been difficult to get? I’ve always been vaguely interested but never actually looked into getting one.
Go to https://rpilocator.com/ and filter by your “region” and check for yourself. Most models seems to be available. The Rapsberry Pi 5 is available for pre-order from a number of suppliers.
I mean uou can get 4’s at retail prices pretty easy right now.
🎶 I know what I’m gonna buy soon 🎶
Not a raspberry pi 5 because you won’t be able to find that shit in stock anywhere lmao
Why not?
That’s a big rock Patrick
I mean you can order them right now.
Sick
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I clicked the first one and the Pi5 is listed for >$2k and out of stock. Can you be more specific?
In some areas it can be out of stock due to high demand and low supply, it’s been announced less than 24 hours ago. I don’t know what’s your problem, but stop acting like I owe you something.
I didn’t act like you owe me anything. Someone asked you for a link to where they can order them and that is not what you posted. It was not helpful.
I can’t find them at any of the German retailers at least. Only one that claims it will probably be sold by 23.10
Is that like when I ordered a 3B and was told it’ll ship in 3 months then 3 months later the retailer emailed me to say that I’ll need to cancel my order because they don’t know when it’ll actually be filled?
Goddamn it, just after I bought a Beelink mini PC a couple weeks ago.
A mini PC is the way to go if you want to self host a media server such as Jellyfin. You have to do a little research, but you can find mini PCs with Intel chips that have Quick Sync for transcoding for around $100 on Amazon.
Eh that x86 cpu will still be faster than pi5
No worries, you won’t be able to find one anyways :)
Oh cool, been waiting for this announcement. Nice.
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I had an instant flashback when I saw your icon, I can still here his voice. Haven’t thought about stronghold in a long time.
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Pihole!
Bit overpowered for that alone, isn’t it. Got Pi-Hole running on a first gen Pi Zero W without issues and resources to spare.
Single-node k3s deployment with Pi-Hole, then?
And more, I hope
Any recommendations?
Some form of media center, or hosting a local game server would be cool to make use of all that power
Nice to see, that’s pretty cool
And the good thing about pihole is that it’s so light, you can always add it, too. I’m using a 1st gen pi for it, and even that is almost a waste of resources for how little a pihole actually needs
Syncthing
Even the Pi has lost its headphone jack…
It’s a shame that even the Pi Foundation is cutting corners. Cutting corners and removing features all while not even coming close to their target $35 price. Almost double for the base model. This doesn’t feel like it fits the spirit of the original Pi Foundation goals at all.
Very cool they’ve added an interface to connect a peripheral that can have one though.
And you can just get an audio dac hat.
Hmm. Yeah, though I have to say that the USB route looks cheaper.
USB audio will always be better in pricing options, but the question is, which will give you better sound for the price. Of course, this only matters if you think audio quality is more important than price.
Please re-read my response. I never said that USB would always constrain the audio quality, but if you get a cheap USB to aux converter, the quality would be lacking vs a more expensive solution.
You are making just such a weird argument and it sounds like you are retroactively trying to salvage a bad position because you made a mistake.
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If you care strongly about audio quality. A built-in doesn’t have any quality guarantees… why then does usb vs hat matter?
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If quality is your concern why bring up price in the first part? It is blatantly obvious that cheap parts *might" equate to cheap quality. This is blatantly obvious.
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Obviously there will be USB solutions that are equal or better solutions than prebuilt rpi dac hats since the primary dac hats are exceptionally niche.
This response just sounds like you got caught out in your mistake/bad argument. Why be a dick about it?
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There’s just not enough room
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To be fair, the pi’s have always been famous for low quality sound cards, so there’s plenty of hats that can add the functionality.
How do you mean, what sucked about it?
The sound quality sucks.
I remember when i wanted to make something like a chromecast audio with volumio and spotify connect on my Pi 2. I had to buy an audio DAC (~30€) because I could not get the 3.5 Jack to work correctly. It just sounded bad when cranked up to a volume you could actually hear something. You almost couldn’t understand lyrics in songs due to the static noise. I read that this was due to being badly shielded from the power source.
The Audio jack on the Pi 3 I have is ok, but still not that good compared to the Audio DAC of course. But then again, the audio DAC i bought for 30€ was said to be on par with 1000€ standalone audio interfaces lol.
It was some hacked-together sound output that was terrible quality compared to a real sound card output, AFAIK. You could make it make sounds, but if you care at all about quality it was a non-starter, which is one reason a whole lot of audio hats exist.
These things are great for !boinc@sopuli.xyz often time leagues more efficient per watt in terms of computation than regular PCs. I have a couple of 'em working on cancer research and computing to develop an open-source patent-free covid antiviral. You don’t need a PhD to make a difference, all you need is a processor :)
If they were more efficient per watt for scientific computing, you’d hear about researchers building HPC clusters from them.
If they were more efficient per watt for scientific computing, you’d hear about researchers building HPC clusters from them.
Efficiency per watt is not the same as total cost of ownership. Pis are expensive for the amount of compute you get from them in total, but the compute itself is efficient per watt. You would need at least a dozen Pis to rival the latest CPU processors in terms of total output, a dozen Pis is more expensive to buy than a single CPU.
*more efficient than regular PCs. Not more efficient than supercomputers lol
I did a quick Google.
https://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/group/green_machines.htmlIs the best actual test data I can find. It uses a physical power meter, so it’s full system (not TDP or self reporting power consumption).
And it’s a few years out of date.
Seems like Apple silicon is the winner (and will probably continue to be).
The Xeon that beats the rpi4 for GFLOPS/watt is an e5v3, which was launched in 2013 and EOL in 2021.
So there will absolutely be some new Xeon CPUs that will perform better.However, for a $50 device, it’s probably the best GFLOPS/watt/$ from what little empirical data I can find
I don’t know about lately, but 4k on Pi 4 was always janky.
You won’t notice a difference in h265 4k video as each has a decoder, but Youtube performance would definitely be improved. My Rpi4 struggles with 4k60p youtube videos because it lacks a VP9 decoder.
The folks at Libreelec say it can software decode 4K h264 smoothly
I wonder if it’ll be powerful enough to run a Jellyfin server and actually handle some transcoding now
Are you sure they said it’ll decode 4k h264 smoothly? I’m seeing them saying 1080p is good, but not 4k.
Here’s a quote from the article you linked, emphasis mine:
RPi5 can software decode AV1, H264, VC1, VP9, and more at 1080p with ease. In our testing with YouTube and inputstream.adaptive a surprising amount of 4K media also plays.
Note that it’s unclear from this quote what Codec the Youtube stream was using, but remember that Youtube is quite low bitrate even at 4k. The implication here is that 1080p h264 is good and low bitrate 4k stuff might be okay, but it will struggle beyond that. Keep in mind that it’s not any worse than RPi 4 in that area, but I don’t think it’s going to be much better either.
You quoted those two sentences, but skipped the three sentences right before them:
BCM2712 supports HEVC 4K60 hardware decoding. It no longer supports H264 in hardware. This might sound odd but it removes the RPi4’s 1080p restriction on H264 decoding and the 4K H264 test media we have has played.
To my eyes this implies it works fine for 4K h264. The sentences you quote from are sort of a “furthermore, at 1080p it can handle these more complex codecs as well” to my initial reading.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, just explaining why I parsed this paragraph a bit differently.
That seems to work for my needs. The performance improvements according to this video seems promising: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9hYfQ7bRgZg
Then again, after learning about the crappy things the Raspberry Pi Foundation has done, I’m probably better off getting a used Lenovo ThinkCentre or HP EliteDesk Mini (which I already have) for a much lower cost. I was just excited about Raspberry Pi’s finally being powerful enough to handle 4K, but that may be a stretch, too.
Sadly no hardware AV1 decode though. Though it can apparently decode AV1 in software up to 1080p.
For the small price of 250 scalper dollars you will be able to buy it
