So Spotify recently changed from a green heart and a block song button to and + and a - for liking and disliking. What is your opinion?
My personal preference would be to bring back the green heart and make a deep red broken heart.
And I know spotify is proprietary yada yada I don’t care for music streaming. So pls don’t let it be a part of the discussion.
To reference this is an old screenshot I found on the internet.
Don’t use Spotify and it took me a while to even find the mentioned buttons in the screenshot. Looks like either volume controls or add/remove from playlist. Better would be thumbs up/down.
Do you hate grammar and spelling? Reading your text hurts.
Heart*
Liking*
Disliking*
My*and use punctuation. It’s like you’ve made a conscious effort to make it really bad.
Sorry I’m not a English is not my native language. I changed it up so it isn’t that bad
Can you point out the minus for grandpa here who can’t see for shit apparently?
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- feels like the clearer icons if I just go on your text description. More of this, less of that. Heart always to me felt too much, like do I really love this song? So I only hearted very few songs, and only blocked even fewer, because that’s also very harsh feeling. So I prefer this, if the UI is good? But I can’t really tell from the image
The " - hide this song" button is hidden with all the other options like add to queue, view album/artist, etc. For me it’s the 3 dots in the top right
There is none, I don’t think the screenshots are of the new design OP talks about. I also checked in my app, and I have either a +/- (well I have a + in a circle that adds songs to playlists) nor a 👍 or 👎 or anything.
I think that’s in fact supposed to be the joke, anyways. That Spotify does not have a like/dislike button.
The minus only shows up for recommendations/auto-generated things, to allow for signals that this is not the stuff you want to listen to.
It wouldn’t make sense to have it in for example your liked songs, as those are curated by yourself, instead of being curated algorithmically.
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I see the plus, but where is the minus button you mentioned?
If you press the 3 dots in top right you’ll get a bunch more buttons including the " - hide this song" one.
Sorry it was a bad screenshot I changed it to a better one
For context the old one was that one
Im guessing the button changes to a minus when clicked.
The button likes the song when clicked, it just fills in. You have to go to the menu to get to the minus button
oh that’s just silly
If you press the check again it pulls up the playlist menu so you can add the king to playlists. Which, I actually appreciate.
The plus is adding to liked songs playlist
I think they should stop doing business with war.
What’s wrong with just a thumbs up and thumbs down?
Because negative feelings don’t belong anywhere near a social product…. Just look at what YouTube and Facebook did
There’s no functional difference between +/- and 👍/👎.
So what is the result of 5👍2?
That’s easy
There are definitely differences. + And - imply addition and subtraction, while 👍👎 imply pleasure and displeasure, or agreement and disagreement. The + and - in this context is quite ambiguous, because it could mean volume up/down, or adding or subtracting the song from a playlist for example. Those would be my first guesses without context I think. Color coding them would help, because it would give more weight to the action, but I think the iconography is still overly ambiguous compared to other options. Source: am professional designer.
Eh, neither of your screenshot shows what you are talking about, tbh.
Looks worse, does the same thing however so whatever. Spotify once again focusing on the wrong things. Prime enshittification There are songs uploaded with the wrong name that I’ve reported 8-ish years ago that have still not been fixed. Every now and then I’ll get a notification for a new release from an artist that I’ve never listened to because they share a name with an artist that I’m following. That thing doesn’t need fixing, nah…changing the heart button, that’s real stuff
songs uploaded with the wrong name…
Also lyrics showing for music without lyrics…smh
Prime enshittification
Enshittification does not mean a service getting worse in your opinion, it has a narrower definition - the practice of luring in users with an unusually good deal, many times subsidized by VC money, and then when you’ve got enough users hooked, you improve your bottom line at the expense of the quality of the service.
If you can show that this is something that is improving the bottom line at the expense of the service, then it would be enshittification, but I really don’t think you can.
They’ve made the free version worse and worse and have added more and more useless features to the paid version. Maybe it’s not enshittification in the strictest of terms, but it’s not far.(also lol, we’re talking about a 1 year old term as if it’s super established)
I dislike all the algorithms being pushed on Spotify. I just want to listen to albums and that’s it.
The radio function is nice in theory, but it tries too hard to guess what I want to listen to to the point where it felt like any radio I played ended up being variations of the same thing. It is just not a good way to discover new music in my experience.
These days I have cancelled my subscription in favour of actual radio. Fip.fr is brilliant.
I agree and it’s getting to the point where it’s almost unusable for me too.
Every “Spotify” playlist which is what they shove down your throat in every search consists of the same few dozen songs that it thinks I want to listen to. Well if I wanted to listen to the same EDM playlist I’ve already created for myself, I would Spotify. I have to search for specific albums to get any value from the service these days, but that’s difficult when it doesn’t really introduce me to any new music.
I know what you mean with the radio function I would also love if it would give me something similar to the song i was listening to not the stuff I usually listen to
I would really appreciate a configurable Radio playlist. Just a slider from “very similar” to “here be dragons” would do.
Actually, I noticed exactly what you’re describing too. There are like 3-4 clusters of artists that Spotify thinks I love, and that’s it. Unless I’m actively searching for something else.
This was old Slacker Radio. You could create a station with any number of artists and then tweak it to discover new artists or just listen to ones you know.
YouTube Music has this feature currently.
It’s alright, but I’ve left YT Music because of all the bullcrap algorithmic stuff they’re doing too.
Eh, kind of. It’s not nearly as customizable as Slacker was. With Slacker I could say I want mostly artists I have selected, but play some new artists, and play the deep cuts instead of the popular songs. You could ban artists from a station or add ones you liked to build it out. And, I think this is most important, all your likes/dislikes/whatever only applied to the current station. I’m tired of YouTube Music playing death metal when I play Blind Guardian radio just because I also listen to death metal.
It kind of lives on in Liveone, who bought Slacker, but their whole app is a mess and they have a very limited library compared to the other streaming services.
Yeah, when I tried YT music a couple of times (unpaid) I actually did discover some new stuff, partly perhaps because they have no idea what I usually listen to. Then again I have come to dislike Google enough that I’m not going to pay for their services no matter how good some of them might be. Once YouTube stops working with adblock I’m out of there too.
This is why I switch to Tidal + Plex. It allows you to just maintain a library and listen to albums while keeping the algorithm recommendations out of the way.
I completely hate the new “+” symbol, the heart was so easy to understand
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Same opinion for all of Spotify: it’s shit
My experience has been that the “-” was exactly the same as a skip. Spotify still plays those songs and even if I’ve gone to the artist or group and selected “don’t play this artist” they’ll still come up. So this redesign seems more honest, in that you don’t like the song but they’ll still play it.
I pay for Spotify and do not like the pop ups for podcasts and now audiobooks. I really do not like how they ruined the shuffle button and now the ugly check mark instead of the heart. I am not fond of the ui at all and will start looking at other alternatives. Imo, Spotify has gone downhill. I miss the old time Spotify.
Yes! The shuffle button! Every time I want to shuffle/unshuffle a playlist, it seemingly has to toggle through the smart shuffle bullshit first, which disables the button and shows a loading icon (which can be 5+ seconds on a mobile connection) while it finds awful songs to inject into my playlist.
Oh how I wish there was a way to disable it
Just toggled that setting and it didn’t seem to change anything
Eh, not your fault, just Spotify not being able to figure out how to make a customizable product.
I still have issues with it even though autoplay is disasbled. It does not want to shuffle my songs, just add others to shuffle in. I prefer the seperate shuffle and enhance buttons.
I also really dislike the pop-ups and “recommendations” that I have no interest in. It feels like I’m being advertised to when I’m specifically already paying, in part to remove ads.
That, along with their incessant and poorly communicated A/B UI testing, is making me more and more frustrated. Don’t get me wrong, the price for a Duo membership is excellent for the amount of music available, but I have started to build out my own collection that I can stream through Plex as a backup, since I expect their platform to only get worse over time
I switched to TIDAL. Same price, and they pay the artists better per stream.
Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into Tidal.
I HATE the shuffle button on Spotify. It used to be better. I have a Playlist that I used to listen to with the ‘enhanced’ shuffle. Spotify would add similar songs into the queue. It was nice. Now Spotify just plays the same 20 songs or so, over and over again. My Playlist has over 200 songs without even adding the variety into the queue. I’ve started actively removing songs because they are all I hear. This isn’t how listening to music should work.
I pay for premium. Unfortunately, I get full screen pop ups Spotify refers to as “sponsered suggestions”. Ranging from a survey, podcasts, audiobooks, family plans, new artists they want me to like, etc.
To me, they are irritating and as a monthly subscriber, I should not have them. I am happy they do not plauge you. I consider you very lucky.
