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Happened to me just yesterday.
Wife: what are you doing? Me: pushing the hard reset button. Wife: it’s not possible. Windows started booting up! Me: No, it’s necessary.
Hello
At that point, wipe out windows, expand your partition and reinstall grub
I have a single windows 11 system while everything else is on some form of Linux distro.
That windows system has never been connected to the internet, and it has been great without ever causing any of the typical update issues (although I update applications/components manually over an isolated NAS link).
It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates. No wonder many people I know are jumping to the Apple ecosystem after getting a taste with a M2.
It’s sad to see that everyday users have gotten habituated to these constant workflow braking updates.
I’ve never understood this problem, people talk like it has a mind of it’s own and i just don’t get it.
I’m running windows 11 pro and have never had updates interrupt my shit.
Updates show up in my system tray, then it updates overnight when i sleep.
Most don’t leave their PC on overnight.
I remember when I went on my lunch break and came back to see my PC part way through upgrading to Windows 10, which I never agreed to. So yeah, Windows update can definitely act bizarrely.
I mean… having updates that suck is not a good solution but for sure do every update please.
Its just excrutiatingly slow, like 5min one time where Fedora Kinoite is more stable, doesnt fuck up other partitions and goes in the background while using the system!
Android (GrapheneOS) is even better with updates in the background and very low CPU usage, one reboot and you are there.
Or just regular mutable Linux distros seperating packages that dont need a reboot from packages that do.
I mean, if it was accidental then… Just turn it off and boot back into Linux? You realise you can just turn it off while it’s downloading updates, right? Heck, you can even pause updates long term if you want! 😱 Crazy!
I never said to do it while it’s in the middle of changing stuff, but if you just booted you can turn it off and nothing will happen because worst case it will just be downloading without installing, as someone else mentioned, once updates are installed you can even turn off without applying updates if you want and you can also tell it to only download and not install unless you tell it to or not download at all.
I did that once, the registry stopped working. Turns out it can’t boot without that
I have a Windows 10 partition on a second machine. I have disabled automatic updates in the options and I never click “Update at restart” or anything. Yet, whenever I need to boot into Windows it decides to automatically start updating itself.
I guess that I use it infrequently so there are always updates available, but it shouldn’t force them on me when I’ve specifically disabled them.
Also, when you choose either of the update or restart/shutdown options, it actually tries to restart, (for me) always boots back into linux because that’s my default. When I’d eventually boot back into Windows, it just continues installing the update I’d long forgotten about.
Pretty happy to be rid of that mess entirely now.
I have a laptop still with Windows 10. I got it from my late sister about 4 years ago, booted it up, went and installed Ubuntu (18.04 at the time), and never touched Windows again.
I later read somewhere that W10 was forcibly upgrading itself to W11, so I’m afraid to even boot into it. Should probably take some time to copy everything important over and finally nuke it.
For reference, I’ve been using Linux since around 2012.
If it isn’t encrypted you should be able to mount the Windows partition from Ubuntu
This little trick bypasses windows passwords btw, booted puppy on my disused win10 machine a while back and mounted my drive without needing my “unlock windows” pin. Used it to rescue files because that win10 install won’t pass that pin screen anymore, just input the pin and then black screen forever like it can’t load.
Oh, it isn’t encrypted. I’ve mounted the partition before. I just didn’t find the time (read: I was lazy :P).
Haha, fair enough, I feel that. I’ve been procrastinating on my home lab maintenance.
It doesn’t forcibly update, but it asks in a fullscreen window that looks as if the update started. Just click no thanks/cancel and it will continue to show the desktop. The window returns sometimes, but not always.
Good to know, thanks.
Still, I won’t touch Windows if I can help it.
I was afraid of exactly this happening. So I just deleted my partition when I fully committed to Linux a few years ago.
You can delay all other updates with the group policy editor. You can disable preview builds and you and delay quality updates by 30 days and delay feature updates by 365 days. The bugs are always worked out by then.
OR they could stop shipping broken updates for their $100 ad-infested operating system. Just a a thought.
My tinfoil hat theory is that they ship broken updates on purpose to feign how fast and hard they work on fixing them. See, customers, we really care!
Feature updates are necessary after a while. There’s SOME important stuff in there. And if you wait a whole year before installing the new one, all the bugs will be fixed by then
Only for Enterprise tho
Yeah, I’ve been using systemd-boot for over 6 months, close to a year, and I’ve never had issues with Windows. And I’ve been dualbooting a lot. Multiple times, using different windows editions, like AtlasOS, or Windows after Winutil, and my sytem has never broken because of Windows and boatloader shenanigans. And to top it all off, in all of these instances, I had Windows installed AFTER Linux, and the only tbing I had to fix after install is to change the boot order so Systemd-boot takes priority.
How does it fix that?
My experience with big release distros was like that. I rarely had an upgrade complete without issue. Rolling release has been good to me so far. Granted, this was 10 years ago and things gave probably gotten better since.
Never had an issue with Debian upgrades
Which distro with rolling release do you prefer?
I used Manjaro in 2015 for about a year before switching to Arch and sticking with that for a long time. Recently I tried EndeavorOS for a few months, then I switched to Void just to try it.
I can solidly recommend either Arch or Void.
Fedora is cool, I also want to try SUSE and endeavor though so I can’t speak on those yet.
Does fedora have a rolling version?
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/#_rawhide
I think this counts but tbh I could be misunderstanding something.
I forgot about rawhide. But it’s not really intended for the general public, similar to debian testing, isn’t it?
I think so, but from what I hear it is pretty stable, enough to use. I’d keep backups of important files, but I do that anyway. I use the Branched release myself, but an aquaintance of mine uses rawhide.
I like EndeavourOS (Arch based) and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (or Gecko Linux). But if you prefer sticking with apt based distro Debian Sid is a rolling release.
Check out Linux Mint Debian Edition, if it still exists. It was also rolling release.
Your experience is vastly different from mine.
My GF had a Windows laptop until this week and her last straw was three reboots in a row, each with over an hour of waiting for updates on shutdown and startup. She never asked for the updates, and wasn’t asked ifbahe wanted to perform them.
Now her password is required for any updates, and she controls her computer,as it should be.
Lol is your OS always on?
Unfortunately, windows likes to wake your computer from sleep to update and reboot without your permission. All unsaved work be damned.
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windows updating the UI/UX with every new OS kills me. Wheres the ‘fuck off’ option when it asks for me to set up my personalization options and info?
I just wish they would literally and continued supporting Win 7. Everything after is just subpar from a usability perspective imo.
people who insist on using windows should just run it in a VM, it has suprisingly low overhead these days, you can even game with it if you insist, but i’m hearing wine/proton is getting good enough that it doesn’t even matter
You’re still stuck when it comes to anti-cheat in multiplayer games. Some do allow it to work on Linux, but a significant number don’t. Hopefully the tides slowly start to change thanks to the Steam Deck.
I mean I do that currently and it is okay, but file transfer is still not working. The rest is, and I think it even was pretty much ootb, but the SPICE drivers are a real hassle to get installed, while it could be a one click solution?
(This “insert spice CD” thing has no option to download the driver ISO, right?)
Also windows11 is a bit bloated. Bulk crap uninstaller and ChrisTituses Winutil really help making it less fancy but more performant, or just usable.
But yes, VM is way better than hardware. If your Laptop supports that.
There is an ISO somewhere, I always struggle to find it
After that you can just download from within the VM, mount from within windows and run the installer exe
Yup did that, but this needs to go automatically, like its their stuff why cant they download it themselves?
Who is they? There are many tools to run VMs on Linux not maintained by rhel
Idk the devs of virt-manager I guess. Not sure if its a RHEL project
windows’ ram overhead is insane though, it’s not like I can’t run it but I wouldn’t want to daily drive it
I need the stability and reliability of it not running in a vm because it’s for schoolwork
Youre entirely correct about proton unless your kid wants to play fortnite
Literally the only reason I haven’t switched to a Linux distro. I hate anti cheats so much.
To date I have not found any degree of enjoyment in any games with a windows only anti-cheat.
I was going to say Siege, but they removed the ability to play as a team of exclusively shield recruits, I’ve heard.
Siege is honestly awful these days (not complaining about the sci-fi ops, reality is lame as shit why not spruce it up a bit) but what they have done to the UI and the queues (bring unranked back please) is honestly unforgivable and makes the game hard to play. (It isn’t all bad, but more bad than good)
I’m unlucky, I play Fortnite with my cousin in friends.
