I just got up and took about 7 big huffs on a vape while making a coffee. 2% strength and my vision went, everything went black I started blacking out against the kitchen counter. Had to kneel down and wait for it to pass before standing up to finish my coffee. Fucked it up in a cloud of confusion and drank a warm milk.
How the fuck is nicotine legal?
Am I going to die? Please say yes 🥲
That’s sweet of you to offer but no, thank you.
This is way weirder than anything in the hydrohomies channel.
😂 are you guys following me round Lemmy? Weirdos!
Nope, just clicked on a post like normal and recognized the name. Plus voyagerapp’s “New Account Highlightenator” feature makes you look like this
so you stand out a bit.
That baby has way more hair than I do! Very neat feature though.
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My body is a temple (of shit). I used to be a fit, healthy runner & judoka until I became a fat meth addict in my 30s. Now at 40 I’ve quit meth but I was probably suffering from dehydration[1], high BP[2] and shite health[3] when I vaped this morning so the head rush had more effect than normal.
I struggle to give a fuck though. I was told I have high cholesterol a few years back but tbh I don’t really wanna be here.
But I don’t have the guts to end it[4] so I’ll just coast along abusing my body til it packs up and dies. I’m doing well at that: I’m so sedentary I get back ache just standing up and I’m still about 20kg overweight. This year I’m 41! I don’t remember the last time I celebrated a birthday and this year won’t be different. I have an uncle who died at 42 of a heart attack; maybe I’ll go the same age.
- [1] After 3 cups of coffee I’ve peed once in the past few hours.
- [2] Overweight with cholesterol so bound to have high BP.
- [3] Recovering drug addict.
- [4] More due to lack of success, trying repeatedly for 20yrs and failing every time.
I feel you.
I’ve had a hard life, too. Not in the same way - for me, it was the Army, backpacking, rollerblading everywhere, skiing every year since childhood, dabbling in various martial arts, and just a lot of physical activity. Now, later in life I have chronic back pain, my knees are shot, and I have arthritis. I can’t do any of those physical activities that I loved so much anymore, I’m tired of corrective surgeries, and I’m just weary of being in constant pain. I used to obsess about the fact that I couldn’t avoid dying some day; now, it’s comforting to know someday the pain will be over.
So I get where you’re coming from, and I hope you can get to a better place.
If I’m allowed two minor rants: a highly physical life will wear you down. The body wears out: being active makes it happen faster. Obviously, being obese brings it’s own issues, but the fact that we (Americans) villify sedentary lifestyles but glorify sports is unbalanced. The rule should be: moderation in all things.
My second rant: because of the opioid crisis, people who are in chronic pain are treated like addicts. Medical professionals are now terrified of using the best pain management tool available to us today. Example: my wife is going in for a major surgery - they’re literally cutting her abdomen open, taking her guts out, cutting a bunch of stuff that shouldn’t be there out, and stitching her back together. The recovery period will be months. She’s been tld going in that they want to manage the pain without opioids – which isn’t “managing” the fucking pain, it’s just forcing her to suffer through it. All because of laws and regulations punishing the prescription of opioids has doctor afraid of doing it. It makes me furious.
You seem to understand what happened decently well already, why did you really make this post? Your situation reminds me of my wife’s father who was in a similar situation, over 40, ex meth user who had ended up on cigarettes and really abused himself until he got cancer from the cigs and passed and his negligence for his own life really hurt my wife and her family. He was a badass dude, and I regret I didn’t know him better.
I hope you can find a reason to treat yourself better, especially if anyone loves or relies on you, it’s the best reason I have to do decent in life, it’d never be for me, it’d be for my loved ones.
It’s not legal where I live.
Where do you live?
Lack of oxygen did this to you, blame the vape. Nicotine is still shit but so is vaping. If you want bronchitis later in life, keep vaping
bronchitis
Does this imbue me with special power? Will I be able to breathe so hard I float in the sky?
Because it’s a major export and cash crop with significant cultural value. Banning it would go like banning alcohol did
I like how you brought up culture because tobacco used to be used almost exclusively for ceremonial/spiritual purposes and now people are basically pissing all over that by using it the way they do.
Real question is: Hows weed illegal (well over here it still is) and nicotine is not? It ain’t logical thinking thats for sure.
I should have been clearer - why is weed illegal while other less-harmful drugs like weed (UK) are illegal? Makes no sense. If I can black out from weed while making coffee surely to fuck weed which has never made me black out should be legal? All weed ever did was make me fucking laugh or get paranoid.
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It needs the public calling for it to be made legal and the rest not bothered if it is made legal before Commons would touch it.
I’ve emailed my mayor and local MP about legalisation to no avail. Not even replied to as a courtesy. I watched the committee debate on legalisation that I think happened in 2016. It’s as if MPs KNOW legalising it makes sense but they don’t want to risk outright legalisation because the media will eviscerate them. Peter fucking Hitchens especially who led the charge to re-classify weed from class C to B because weed is “stronger than it was 50yrs ago”.
Fucking brain rot in this country will mean legalisation will come in about 50yrs at the earliest.
why is weed legal while other less harmful drugs like weed (UK) are illegal?
wat
If I can black out from weed while making coffee sure to fuck weed which has never made me black out should be legal?
Lol I know you meant nicotine and not weed, I think the nicotine is still affecting you
I think you’re right! 😂
You passing out from huffing on a vape is your own, wierd, unique reaction to nicotine due to your own misuse. I can pass out if I huff a glass of water and that would likely kill me. You can slam 20 energy drinks and make your heart explode, you can eat too much food and die, you can drink too much alcohol and get alcohol poisoning. That is all equivalent to someone who apparently has zero nicotine tolerance taking rips on a vape and being mad they got light headed. That is your own fault. That being said, I am totally down with legal weed and illegal nicotine, however, weed impairs your judgment for hours, nicotine only makes you a bit light headed for a minute, and only if you don’t have a tolerance. I say this as I rip my 12% vape with zero effect.
being mad they got light headed
I’m not mad…
I say this as I rip my 12% vape with zero effect.
Oh maybe there’s some confusion. A 2% nicotine salt vape is equivalent to a 20% nicotine vape. So imagine doing a vape twice as strong in the morning and you get a good idea of why it caused me to be light-headed.
You’re also slightly confused over my seriousness. I’m not seriously suggesting we make nicotine illegal. I just wondered why it’s legal and weed isn’t but at the same time I don’t really care.
I guess my real reason for posting is I’m bored and lonely.
Most of the drug laws are due to back door racism, at least here in the US. They couldn’t make laws that directly targeted minorities and so they made laws that targeted things that were part of the targeted minorities culture. Opium and heroin laws seemed to target Asians and the weed laws seemed more to target “beatniks” and Native Americans. It’s an interesting (if depressing) research topic of you’ve a mind.
I cant find it now, but there’s a great quote from someone in Nixon’s FDA that basically amounts to “We were lying about the drugs to target the minorities. We knew we were lying.”, some real Legion of Doom shit.
Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari gives a good run down of the history of the drug war and how/why it came to be. Shocking and depressing.
That’s a really bad argument. People smoking in public do force me to huff the second hand smoke.
What? In what way does that have anything to do with banning nicotine?
This and the fact that we’re talking about nicotine here, not cigarettes directly.
Inhaling vapor is much less unhealthy (still unhealthy) than inhaling cigarette smoke.
And what about nicotine patches? Should we can those because people don’t like inhaling smoke? Doesn’t make sense.
Second hand smokers:
They’ll never ban nicotine. Have you ever dealt with an ex-smoker? Very aggro. You’d have riots of very angry people if we banned nicotine immediately.
I could see vapes going to way of cigarettes and being educated out of society but it’s going to take a generation. A lifetime of being told “smoking is bad” killed smoking but vapes popped up that solved a hundred problems with smoking immediately (no arsenic, no cancer, no tar, etc) so I think they’ll have to brainstorm on how they can convince a big chunk of people why nicotine is bad.
I’ve quit vaping a few times but came to a horrifying conclusion: Why? It’s not like it improves my life massively. Not like smoking where you regain your sense of taste, smell and improve your health. You’ve simply removed the ability to have morning head rushes. That’s it.
I beleive they will, here in australia the gov has been slowly but surely driving up taxes on cigarettes until the point where its such an expensive habit that people wont get hooked in the first place because why spend all that money on durries when you could spend it on some much more enjoyable and affordable instead - before you get to the addiction stage.
This is along with changing laws to deincentivise smokers, such as plain packaging laws to remove advertising appeal, banning indoor smoking and smoking within x-meters of a building doorway, etc.
And now vapes are the new thing the tobacco industry is pushing they have outright banned nicotine vapes and cartridges importing and buying.
If they create a generation that never starts smoking then will anyone resist banning it by the time the last smokers die out?
Headrush. It’s part of the appeal! Funny story, I once stood up too quickly and as I opened the door to leave the room I had a headrush. I grabbed the top of the door for support, but also fell against it trapping my fingers, so I yanked it back and smacked the door into my face, so I pushed it away and trapped my fingers in the top. Good times.
Maybe u shouldn’t’a done that?
If we all thought like that we wouldn’t have planes or butt plugs!!
All drugs should be legal. Heroin should be legal. What actions people decide to take towards their own bodies are none of the governments concern (outside of offering rehabilitation).
I agree.
Nicotine is legal because it was never made illegal, similar to most things which are legal.
Most of the time in which nicotine has been available it has been through combustion which destroys some of the nicotine and will cause a newcomer like you to cough like a maniac and vomit long before you’ve taken in enough nicotine to faint. Now that vapes designed to be easy to inhale are available and the amount of nicotine can be adjusted to be higher or lower by the manufacturer, a newcomer can inhale much more nicotine at once than has been possible until very recently. Also, the experience you just had is very unlikely to happen again for two reasons. First, you’re probably not going to take huge hits of that vape anymore and second, your brain has now been exposed to that chemical so you now have some tolerance.
Ah, here he is.
The reason for warning labels on everything
Cheeky sod! I only ate one crayon!
