I have many nerdy friends who have been Linux users for ages. But most of them don’t know such a thing as Openwrt exists or have never bothered to give it a try. It’s a very fun piece of software to play with and can be extremely useful for routing traffic. Wondering why it isn’t more popular/widely used.
I used to use it, then wanted more control, power, and functionality so I moved to pfSense, and later on to Opnsense where I am today.
I use dd-wrt a little bit, then tomato and variant (usb, toastman, fresh) then Merlin for maybe 5 years now.
Broadcom routers are mostly not openwrt compatible
About a million years ago, back in 2007/2008 that is, there was this small company called Hexago that did R&D in IPv6 networking, they were behind the Frenet6 project and created the networking stack and the TSP client that would let you tunnel a /56 IPv6 network over a dynamic IPv4 connection.
One the projects was a tiny hardware router, I honestly forget who made it, but Hexago would buy them, then we would flash each one with WRT+TSP client custom image, the idea was you plug this in your network and you have IPv6 connection in your network without doing any magic configuration.
It worked well until we lost finding.
So yeah, OpenWRT is old and not just for Linksys routers :)
Fine on limited hardware like a router but if you’re going to use a full box for your router (or a VM), you’d probably want OPNsense for the ease of management and the fact that it’s targetted for hardware like that.
@mfat@lemdro.id
I use openwrt, it’s my main router running on proxmox, working perfectly.I’ve long known about it. I don’t seriously use it, but I would if only my Wi-Fi router was fully supported. It’s an Asus one (that I got for free from T-Mobile a decade ago) so I installed Asuswrt-Merlin on it instead.
Following the recommendation of homelab communities, I got into OpnSense (a BSD-based firewall system for x86 hardware only) last year, still keeping my Wi-Fi router as a dedicated AP. In hindsight I somewhat regret that choice and probably would’ve been better off buying a new OpenWRT-compatible router and using it to handle firewall/routing/AP all in one device instead of wasting the power draw of another separate N100 system. I like having wireguard and vnstat in my router now, which Merlin didn’t offer, but I know OpenWRT has those too and I don’t have any other needs that warrant a higher-power router.
I’ve used it and dd-wrt back in the day on cheap crashy routers. Also Tomato.
Haven’t tried it in a long time, but have an EAP225 v2 and v3 I’ve been considering slapping openwrt on.
I remember getting a LinkSyS WRT54G for free and then installing OpenRT and then jumping to Tomato and dd-wrt on and off and finally setting on dd-wrt
Yeah of course! Once I went on a buying spree of used WNDR3700. They were so cheap and I won a few too many bids at once.
I gave one to a flatmate when we lived together as students and he took it with when he moved out. Put one in the office room of my current flatmate and still have one or two in reserve. I usually take one with me to LAN-parties.
Before that I once used DD-WRT on a WRT54GL. It also wasn’t bad from what I remember.
I mean, what does one have to do to replace an ISP owned router and what are the benefits? How much does one have to know in order to setup a connection? How does one get connection details from the ISP owned router? How much does a replacement router cost?
My ISP owned router allows me to configure NAT forwarding, replace the DNS, setup a DMZ, assign static IPs to MACs, turn off the internet at specific times (e.g at night), configure parental controls (allows websites, internet access) per device, and probably a few other things I haven’t discovered yet.
For my ISP it’s actually cheaper to not use their modem+WiFi router as they charge a monthly lease on the equipment. I declined it and they provided me with a modem for free. All I have to do is plug the modem to my own router and that’s it!
The features you listed seems pretty standard to all routers these days.
The features you listed seems pretty standard to all routers these days.
You and @yeehaw@lemmy.world have very different experiences 😄
Haha, true. I was referring to routers specifically, not the all in one’s.
I’ve always set the CPE modem to full bridge and put a router inside that I can control fully. Then you can swap equipment at will if you need to.
If you mean a DSL modem or cable DOCSIS, I don’t think those are easily replaceable. But you can definitely put an OpenWRT device right behind it and use that. It’s pretty straightforward (plug in the upstream side, wait for it to get an address, done).
As for how much you need to know… okay. That’s a tricky question because, the most you mess with OpenWRT, the more some stuff becomes automatic, and that makes it easy to forget things. That’s not on you, that’s on me.
That said, thinking about it a little, the defaults are pretty workable right after installation. You’ll have to set an admin password on the OpenWRT box (it nags you until you do these days), which should be familiar. Turning up wifi is a little tricky at first. I would recommend reading through the quickstart guide once or twice before digging into OpenWRT configuration because it lays out all of the basics that you need to get going. It’s about as well written and useful as the manuals for access points were way back when.
One thing I would recommend is, if you build an OpenWRT box, setting it up before you plug it in and use it as your network gateway. It’s much easier to poke at it without having “When is my network going to come back up?” rattling around in the back of your mind.
I see. Well, I have a homeserver for that, which runs all my services, so an openwrt router wouldn’t be an upgrade.
But probably without a homeserver, an openwrt router would make sense and use less energy.
Most the things you mentioned are barely doable on some of the modern all in one modems where I live.
On mine I’ve got separate wi-fi networks for inside and guest, I run zenarmor for ads and malicious junk, I run a proxy, I do my DNS on it for all my internal docker instances, and more. I realize I am doing more than your average person, though.
What do you use nowadays?
Was not expecting that! What a dark character arc :D
I do know about it, but I don’t even have internet at home.
Though I do use DD-WRT on my WRT160NL which I use at school. For me it acts as firewall + setup-free VPN + DNS Ad blocker (NextDNS). I also have separate passwordless guest network on it if someone wants to use my router. Separate subnet, unbridged with net isolation and AP isolation enabled. And also QoS set to “Bulk” while my network is set to “Maximum”. And also forced DNS redirection enabled, so that everyone who doesn’t use DoT or DoH uses NextDNS.It cannot run modern versions of OpenWRT.
You really want to either update to a supported release or stop using it entirely. It is very insecure to run network equipment with known security issues
It is still much more secure than to stop using it and let your other devices go naked.
Not necessarily. I would at least keep your eye out for something newer.
Yes, I run my network infrastructure on it (three access points (one of them the network gateway) and an Ethernet-to-wifi bridge).
