Curious from people who follow its development closely.
- What protocol are about to be finally implemented?
- Which ones are still a struggle?
- How many serious protocols are there missing?
A program that I use often uses an embedded MPV window for video playing, and Wayland doesn’t support that, and apparently won’t: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/issues/74
So until something changes with that program, MPV, or Wayland, or I decide to rewrite the program myself, I’m stuck with X11.
HDR is only experimental on gnome and kde with weston not having an implementation.
I think 10 bit color depth hasn’t even been worked on much.
VRR I think is about finished although X11 has it too.
And the Nvidia wayland support is slowly improving although still full of bugs and stability issues.
10 bit color is supported in wlroots(sway) and hyprland, can’t speak for other desktops.
With explicit the protocol and the Nvidia patch for it next July, most Nvidia problems will be solved
VRR on X11 doesn’t work with multi screen setup, so it might be broken for a lot of people
Barrier
I miss being able to just use one mouse and keyboard for everything
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Nope. Been using Linux for 8 years and I’m ready for Wayland. It’s reminiscent of the move to Pipewire, it is just cleaner and “just works” way more.
X11 is very old and all code has been glued on over the years. It is one big spaghetti mess. Very hard to work on and fix bugs. Wayland is much more modular and future proof.
Some way of globally capturing hotkeys, for things like starting stream, media hotkeys, etc. Only passing key events to the foreground window is shortsighted, but we need a secure way of doing this.
This is already possible
Mind elaborating a bit more?
On kde there’s a feature where you can pass all keys to x11 apps and on hyprland you can specify which keys get globally passed to which apps and maybe all keys.
If all else fails you can create a script that uses obs sockets and runs as root to capture keys globally. They seem to be looking into a global keys portal though.
Pretty sure there is a protocol for this in development or maybe even merged already.
I just want my steam link to work on KDE Wayland.
I just get a black screen with a mouse that I can’t move with a connected steam controller
sunshine/moonlight works for me, even though steam link crashes after 10s
Ah, for me moonlight just “searching for connected computers” forever with no controller buttons working at all and no ability to cancel it to put in the IP of the sunshine PC.
Moonlight on my phone works fine though, moonlight on steam link seems to just have a problem.
I’m using it on Plasma 6 with AMD graphics and so far it’s going good. When I had Nvidia I had issues with electron based applications. Games have been running pretty good regardless of the GPU, though Forza horizon 5 wouldn’t launch under Nvidia for some reason.
Did you have electron/chrome applications flicker? I’ve been dealing with that since switching to Nvidia (I didn’t want to but Plex only supports GPU encoding on Linux with Nvidia).
Yes, that was the exact issue.
What distro out of curiosity been running a 3070 on nixos with hyprland/plasma6 and haven’t had any issues
Arch with Plasma
Huh interesting I booted arch up to test and I’m not getting it there either I wonder if I got a miracle GPU or the only other thing is I use the linux zen kernel
Yup, I’m cautiously optimistically waiting for it haha.
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A little out of date. But still the best source I know of 👍
I think that’s incorrect: https://github.com/mpsq/arewewaylandyet/commits/master/
What do you think you’re doing by putting that link in every comment? Lemmy doesn’t have a terms of service that assigns a license to your text anyways. So if you just say nothing you own your comment and they can’t use it. If they cared about the licence they would already not be able to use it.
What do you think you’re doing caring about me putting a comment in my link? If it bothers you so much, block me so I don’t have to read your inane whining. I do the same with people like you.
Wondering if anyone has an alternative to cursr. That’s really the only thing stopping me from making the switch to Wayland full time. I use to make my 2 displays that are different resolutions play nicer
Most comments have been positive, so I’m gonna list all my issues. Using endeavours with KDE 6.2 and the AUR explicit sync patch, 5800 ryzen CPU and 3080 NVIDIA GPU.
The discord xwayland app can’t share screen, and the waycord app that fake chromiums the web interface that let’s you share screen has the sound bug out sometimes with large sound spikes. So if I want to share the screen I have to open the second app and then close it fast to minimize the chances I annoy my friends.
Window positioning. It almost seems a flagship Wayland issue. I would love if apps remembered on which screen and position I left them the next time I open them, telegram opens in the middle of the primary monitor, and I have to drag it to the right of the secondary one every time I switch on the PC.
Shutting down in any way that is not opening the console and typing reboot or “shutdown now” takes way way longer and sometimes bugs out. This might not be a Wayland issue, but a KDE one.
The tdrop program that let’s you interact with any terminal as if it were a dropdown terminal doesn’t work in Wayland, and it just isn’t the same to open a terminal in the normal way, is lame. Foot is a good terminal for sure but I want the dropdown effect.
I can’t think of anything else right now, most explicit sync issues I had were fixed with the AUR patch, so of anyone has those issues wait until the real patch comes around and they will get fixed. It was quite annoying without the patch though, some programs glitched visually hard and several games were unplayable due to the heavy ghosting (dark souls 2 and dragon’s dogma 2, for example). I’ll add to this comment if I remember anything else. Even if the issue was recently fixed it’s good to have a list of stuff so that people can check it out and confirm that it’s fixed, for posteriority.
The tdrop program that let’s you interact with any terminal as if it were a dropdown terminal doesn’t work in Wayland, and it just isn’t the same to open a terminal in the normal way, is lame. Foot is a good terminal for sure but I want the dropdown effect.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Yakuake
It’s its own terminal but I find it to be pretty good and it works with Wayland.
I did use Yakuake in the past, I might give it a try again maybe, it’s just not my dear foot terminal compiles from scratch, you know?
You mean Plasma 6.0.2, not 6.2 - that will be released in a year.
Use X11 to Wayland Video bridge to get screen sharing working with any X11 app that can’t talk to desktop-portal/PipeWire (such as Discord)
What’s worth noting is that applications, as of now can’t affect window positioning in any way. It’s all about how compositor (kwin_wayland in this case) is placing them. Personally I don’t care that much because I’ve got shortcuts to quickly move windows between screens or desktops. You might consider looking at window rules - they’re pretty neat on KDE.
Shutting down? What???
On the tdrop thing, I wouldn’t expect it to be possible in near future, but how about Yakuake?
Yeah, 6.0.2, the version available in the arch repos.
I’ll check the video bridge, thanks! – Update on this, apparently I was already using it since it ships by default with KDE, it seems to be a discord bug. Weirdly enough, going back to an older flatpak version (0.0.42) fixed the issue. I’ll have to check the updates to see if they fix it.
Thanks on the window rules mention too. – Update on this, you are a saint. I added a rule for the telegram window in KDE so that it remembers its position, and it simply works. https://imgur.com/a/zrvbRPI
Yeah, idk, when I try to use the GUI it takes way longer than the CLI command somehow, and sometimes it blocks itself. It must be something related to some programming hanging itself and the system trying to wait until it stops, but I can’t be bothered, it’s way faster to open a terminal and just typing the command or opening KDE connect and pressing the “shutdown now” shortcut. Not a Wayland issue though.
I did use yakuake in the past but call it stupid brain, but once I read that alacritty was faster and I customized it to my liking, and then checking that foot was a little bit faster, I can’t go back. It’s stupid, I know that most of the use I give the terminal is actually spent on the commands themselves and that I can give transparency and remove window borders in yakuake, I’m just pissy that my fancy combo stopped working.
I’d switched from i3 to sway, but the click offset in Krita made me switch back.
I’d love to find an alternative to xdotool’s auto type feature (or ClickPaste from Windows).
There is
wtypebut unfortunately it doesn’t work in KDE nor GNOME because neither of them support the right protocol. I’ve run into the “<DE> hasn’t implemented $PROTOCOL” a few times in the past and it’s certainly a bit annoying.Aside from when that comes up, I don’t really have any complaints. A tool we used for work was never going to be fully functional on Wayland because of its dependence on Xinerama (I think) but thankfully we’ve moved away from it.
I like ydotool, uses a systemd user service, but fulfills my needs of KB shortcuts to paste text into vnc sessions
I’ve been using it for my daily driver for work and casual gaming with no issues for 4 months now (Garuda Linux)
On KDE Plasma, my only outstanding bug is that the “window shade” button on my window controls is broken. Too bad since I use that feature a lot.
On GNOME everything seems to work as far as I can tell. It’s pretty smooth!
The window shade problem is keeping me from Wayland. AFAIU there’s currently no commitment to ever fix it on Wayland, it’s only a maybe.
For anyone interested, it’s being tracked here.
I remember a showstopper a while back being that you can’t resize the title bar while shaded. That’s already the current behavior on x11, so I would be fine with that caveat continuing if it meant wayland support.
We have moonligh/sunshinefor that
What I want is remote windows
And I want them on wayland, on X, on my android phone, in the meta quest 3, in my browser and on windows (native, not wsl)
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