Who’s winning POTUS? Will it be called on election night or drawn out? Congress? Etc
The 1% will benefit.
Harris Wins.
MAGA throws a giant hissy fit, tries about three more coups, goes around intimidating election officials and offices to states that validated the election. Going to spend another 3 years arresting and jailing even more of these idiots until we have an even more prison population problem.
Trump declares once again that he didn’t lose, despite all the lies saying he’ll admit that he lost if it was fair.
Someone attempts to assassinate Harris during Inauguration. Someone attempts to assassinate Biden because they believe that if he doesn’t pass the torch to Harris, then it’ll prevent a Harris presidency.
Harris will presumably do a good job but like with nearly all Democratic presidents since Obama, the best that they’re good at in Modern-Day America is just temporary hold-over solutions but nothing groundbreaking that’ll last long-term.
Harris will probably be fighting with windbags leftover from GOP in Senate, House, Congress and Supreme Court because that’s how they’ve been. No different than Obama’s terms and Biden’s term.
And then we’ll spend 4 years basically just building up until the next shitty election.
Whoever wins…
We lose.
The one comment that unites both liberals and conservatives in their hatred of the left.
Both of you can GTFO with your negativity, imo.
This is like two stumbling drunk parents arguing over who’s better to drive everyone home and telling the kids “shut up you’re not helping!” when they suggest taking a cab.
I’m off that week so I predict I’ll be pretty drunk regardless of the result
I’m almost positive Trump wins with how close all the swing states are now and how he’s improving in polling (what the actual fuck people?!) the closer we get to the election.
I’m also almost positive we will not know for sure on election night as I absolutely expect R controlled states to drag their feet and declare “irregularities” that they need to investigate if they don’t like the way things are going.
I hope it will not be Florida of 2000 election all over again, but in a massive scale.
It’s insane, Gore won by several thousand votes, if not tens of thousands.
Yeah but Gores brother wasn’t governor of Florida! Who evers brother is governor wins, thems the rules.
Such a weird rule, but can’t disagree with the supreme court.
If Trump wins then all the people who are not wealthy white males will get exactly what they deserve.
Everyone worth less than 8 figures will lose.
Little else will change. Regardless of figurehead.
My rational side wants to see Harris win, but the anarchist in me wants to see Trump win, just to see what would happen. Not living in the US, obviously.
Trump winning could be a disaster for the whole world since US is such a major player in basically everything, but my anarchist side does not listen.
What does Trump winning have to do with Anarchy?
Same story we saw in 2016, Trump has no policy other than destroying American institutions and the status quo, so people get this sort of collapse fetish and pick him for that reason alone.
They mean in the “chaos” sense, not the Lemmy-friendly sense.
On the other hand, a severe degradation of federal institutions would by necessity promote community-based cooperation. Like in any other disaster, natural or otherwise.
Nobody wants to see it happen this way, but it might be the catalyst we get.
You’re a piss poor anarchist if you want the the orange fascist to win
They’ll both be disasters for the USA.
Trump will be a disaster because millions of Americans who are currently on the brink of poverty will sink into poverty under his policies, amplifying all kinds of social problems and civil unrest.
Harris will be a disaster because she will escalate unpopular military conflicts, overextending the military, further lessening the prestige of the US, and encouraging countries to de-dollarize.
The next four years are going to be rough. There’s no avoiding it.
Would U.S.A. foreign policy be drastically affected by who becomes the president?
As a non-American, I think it’d have more impact on the people of the U.S.A and maybe immediate neighbours like Mexico.I don’t know, to quote someone I read here: “The world shits when the US farts”
US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)
US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)
That maybe a consequence but US foreign policy might improve or remain unchanged under Trump.
Haha, u kidding?
They will improve with authoritarians, where Trump can personally benefit from.
For everyone else it will worsen and set global policies back by at least one decade.
Improve in the sense it will stop butting it’s nose everywhere.
foreign policy might improve under Trump
Let’s see, Israel kills all Palestinians, Russia takes over Ukraine, then North Korea and China initiate actions against South Korea and Taiwan. You have an unusual definition of improve.
Israel will kill Palestinians no matter who comes to power in US. Maybe if Israel doesnt pay him personally anything he might reduce their supplies. If they pay him as they pay all the other politicians it will be business as usual.
At least there would be a chance that spineless and derelict UN will fall.
Trump said he will let Israel “finish the job”. STFU.
I agree Biden now n Harris if she comes next won’t overtly support Israel like Trump. They will just send them arms n ammunition as usual while giving soundbites against them.
Anarchism is not chaos, which is what it seems like you think it means. Anarchism is the opposition to hierarchy and is thus directly opposed to fascism and therefore Trump. No anarchist wants to see Trump win because it means fascism has won.
Yep. Too many people think anarchy is throwing bricks at windows. It just means opposing hierarchy. Hoping a fascist wins is the literal opposite of that
It’s gonna be a shitshow.
Canadian here. Mostly concern. Anybody here that thinks it’s a fun show hasn’t thought very far ahead.
We have to laugh at it to stay sane. We have no control over what the Americans do.
Yes, I’m a fan of gallows humour too.
As a non-American, this. And I honestly don’t understand why so many people in our neck of the woods aren’t more concerned about this. You guys are such a heavy hitter from a socio-economical standpoint, that anything which goes down in your country will inevitably affect everyone else.
I have a theory as to why people in my country discuss US politics more than our own. People want to talk about something more ‘important’ than the latest reality talent show, but don’t want to risk talking about local politics. US politics is square in the middle, splashed across our feeds constantly.
I just can’t wait until elections continue their downward spiral, and presidential candidates need to sing country songs to Snoop Dog so they don’t get voted off the island.
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The current betting odds aggregations have trump at 58%, harris at 41%
https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president
Maybe I’m crazy, but I feel like gamblers have a heavy right lean.
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Gamblers don’t always get it right, but this page has some interesting history: https://electionbettingodds.com/about.html
Gamblers, polls, and the NYT’s most sophisticated prediction algorithms all got it very wrong in 2016, and severely overestimating hillary and underestimating trump. But of those three, the prediction markets were the least wrong.
You’re not wrong, it’s because leftists are generally more critical of gambling.
Well that’s disheartening. Can’t believe that many people prefer a racist con man to a competent woman.
Betting markets don’t really have any predictive value. It’s all vibes.
This page has some background, but historically they’ve always beat polling and any other prediction algorithms as long as they’ve been around.
I wouldn’t rely on them for predictions, but I do think they can be a reasonable proxy for people’s beliefs and/or assumptions. And I would say they at least loosely track the truth…
NBA betting is not perfectly predictive, but there’s a reason the Celtics are at the top and the Pistons are at the bottom.
A 34 time convicted felon child rapist pussy grabber racist con man
You could keep adding to that.
People are big mad and think electing a brain-damaged version of Mussolini makes some kind of point.
Wikipedia lists Real Clear Politics as having become more conservative and right leaning in recent years. Their polls may not be as accurate.
That’s not a poll. It’s an aggregate / average of betting markets.
Right now I think Harris is more likely to win than Trump, but it would also not be an enormous surprise if Trump wins.
Jill Stein comes from behind to take the surprise win. Dems and Republicans both claim it’s stolen.
