Funko Pops, to me.
I understand that some of them are fairly overpriced, but I also really like them as is. It doesn’t work on all characters, but it sometimes work on a lot and there’s so much representation and variety that it’s good to have a few.
If people want to talk about waste of plastic and vinyl, they should bark at the companies who make teeny tiny figurines that serve no purpose and have so little detail that spending any money on them is a waste.
Crocs. I got my first pair when I was a teenager and they still work now (edit: 30yrs old); though I recently got a new pair because the bottoms were completely smooth on the old pair.
“Ugly” cars. Aka Pontiac Aztec, PT Cruiser, Fiat Multipla, etc. Yeah, they might be ugly as sin, but they’re more interesting from a visual standpoint. I’d rather have the road filled with ugly cars than filled with cars that mostly look the same.
Many got over the hate and now appreciate them. They are also common addons for overnight hiking/bikepacking trips for when you set up camp and your feet are tired.
PT Cruisers would be fine if they were just ugly. Those things were notoriously unreliable.
Are they, though? They’re just Dodge Neons under the hood. And there were a ton of pt cruisers. I still see them now, 20 something years later. People seemed to take care of them and pass them onto their kids as they got older.
Dodge Neons weren’t reliable either. I rarely see PT Cruisers these days unless I’m at a scrapyard.
My neighbor drives one around and it definitely belongs there, it just gets louder and makes more random mechanical failure noises every time he drives it by
Everything from Chrysler is junk. I worked for several dealers and general used car lots with my auto body shop business. Everything dodge/chrysler/plymouth was cut rate junk since the late 70’s and still is. At wholesale auctions, they are the joke cars people only bid on because they are so damn cheap it justifies playing roulette. Everything goes wrong with them.
Like here we are nearly 20 years since I painted and I still remember there is a champagne/charcoal/silver metallic paint that came on Dodge/Chryslers. The color code was 4Q2. There were more unrelated variations under that color code than almost any other at the time. The only one I encountered that was worse was the charcoal metallic used on Chevy/GMC trucks and suburbans. That one has tone variability between yellow, red, and blue where getting it wrong meant remixing the color coat. With 4Q2 it was metallic grain size, tone between blue and yellow, and the flop characteristics (apparent color tone and clarity when viewed from an oblique angle).
I remember many times thinking to myself that someone knew, if you have not figured it out, say “4Q2” out loud and fast… It was freaking personal, all those times I struggled with that color. Those cars were the dead inventory that was ever present on many lots I worked for, and they sat at the mechanics bays for much longer than any of the rest.
Preaching to the choir lol I wouldn’t touch a Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat with a ten foot pole
I own two pairs. I apologize for nothing
Crocs were hated? When?
I would say they are still hated right now.
I just find them ugly, but there are some people with almost visceral reactions to them. “That’s not even a real shoe” kind of thing.
Me…
(hugs)
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I… I don’t think of these at all, I just ignore their existence.
Personally, hating on people who post things on social media that are slightly offensive to others get more hate than they should. We should reach out and try to explain the issue in a civil matter instead of just loosing it because that doesn’t make us any better. And if the person doesn’t want to understand or care, just ignore them and move on.
Hating on products because either are bad, or underwhelming is ok as these companies know this and clearly don’t care because they are already making money off it. However this is only recent due to all the Enshittrification we are getting force fed by these same companies.
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Imo they aren’t getting nearly enough of hate they deserve. I’m not against figure collecting in general but FP are the ugliest motherfucking thing i ever seen in this department, for the same amount of resources, labour and energy they could produce something much better. In fact, a consistent long serie of figures faithful to the original (not ultra-deformed) across so many franchises would been great, but alas only thing there is are those unholy abominations.
Those dead-eyed monstrosities stare deep into my soul and give me a case of the howling fantods, so yes, agree.
They are the opposite of art in every imaginable way.
Yes, but english language call “art” literally everything made with even a slightest hint of intention, which those things had to be because there is no other purpose (except lining the pockets of publishing mafia).
I also take issue with buying something that does nothing. “Oh I’m going to put this on that shelf and never touch it again”. It screams cash grab. They’re made of brittle plastic so you can’t play with them. And as you say, they’re ugly.
I would argue that collecting things having purely aesthetical value is also legit, though there is an issue about manufactured demand and role of merchandise in popculture (also i swear i really need all those rpg dices), but fair enough.
I see benefits of displaying art made by a person, but I take issue with collecting. It feels like a form of hoarding.
It definitely can be, for example art is very often hoarded as form of investment, and this can be a much lower-price form of the same, but not necessarily. I would say the more those things price is, the more chance for hoarding.
That is, economically. If you mean hoarding as in psychology probably it’s more depending on person, a lot of people i know including me were collecting more or less useless things but nobody i know went into true hoarding problem and most of those people at some point got bored and got rid of their collections. Other than above personal experience, idk.
I collect comics, which are (printed, yes, but) art made by people. Sometimes I’ll sell off a run, some I’ll keep forever because they’re fantastic. Different strokes ig.
Keeping them to read them is different than keeping them to have them. The former is an in-use library, the latter is collecting.
Fair enough.
Bookshelves hold books, nightstands hold plenty of shit, and beds hold my sleepy self.
What were you trying to say?
BTW, if you want to criticize throw pillows I’m happy to join in but I don’t understand your choice of furnishings to criticize.
I’m a woodworker, youtube often recommends me woodtube content. Tool reviews, project builds, shit like that. And occasionally “How I made $15k making these” with a thumbnail of a guy holding a simple pine triangle.
Turns out he miter saws triangles out of pine, stains them, paints the tip of them white, and now it’s a mountain, which he sells on Etsy for damn near $30 for three. They are functionless and do nothing. And there’s apparently a demand for them.
I refuse to sell trinkets like that. If I make anything, it will have some function. Maybe I will take some off-cuts and band saw out some apple-shaped coasters or something because keeping the condensation from your drink from puddling on your nice new table is a thing and it might as well be a fun shape, but I will always be that one step away from “pieces of wood to clutter your house with.”
Also a woodworker and primarily a tool maker for this reason. I want to make something USEFUL.
Shit if you have enough off cuts after a table, matching coasters for that table is always the best move. Baller as fuck.
On my own projects (some of which you can find in !woodworking@lemmy.ca) I end up having narrow off-cuts, often from ripping boards to width. I save these up and when I’m sick of having them around I glue them up into panels, cut them into squares and make coasters out of them. They don’t really match anything other than they’re made of the same species I tend to work with.
Ah shame, oh well!
long serie of figures faithful
I hate to be that person, but the singular of “series” is “series”. There is no singular called “serie”.
I think generative AI is a great recent example. It’s a neat toy, it has some practical applications. The problems that people ascribe to it aren’t inherent in the technology, but are simply symptoms of underlying social problems in a capitalist society.
For example, people complain that it takes jobs away, but the whole idea that we have to work for the sake of work is idiotic to begin with. Technology that frees up people from work should create more free time for people to enjoy. The reason that’s not happening is because capitalism is not a rational economic system.
Another common argument is that it’s very resource intensive and wastes energy. This is true, but there’s no reason to believe this won’t be optimized. In fact, we’ve already seen a lot of optimizations happen in just a few years that now make it possible to run models that used to require a data centre to run on a laptop.
However, more fundamentally, wasting energy is once again an aspect of the capitalist system itself. Before AI we saw stuff like crypto, NFTs, and so on. Much of the technology that’s developed under capitalism ends up being frivolous or even actively harmful. So, it’s not generative AI that’s the problem, but the social system that guides allocation of labour and resources.
@yogthos This. Crypto as well.
Having some Internet-wide independent currency is, in my books, a genuinely good idea. It allows people like me to survive under the unfair governments. Yes, plural. I work internationally, you see.
What’s happening around this tech with all this scams and market gambling and the fact that everybody jumped on the literally first implementation which is very much underdeveloped (frankly, fucking raw) - well… that sucks, and that creates a blind backlash.
pretty much yeah
The reason they’re being hated is entirely for religious reasons. Just like any other individual from the LGBTQ umbrella are scorned similarly.
But I have to play devil’s advocate now that I’m thinking of it, but one thing I don’t like about trans people, isn’t just who they are. It’s the spotlight is primarily on them, by a community that had once stressed about caring about all individuals of all backgrounds. Yet, Trans people got all the attention almost and what that has caused is levels of infighting and people giving cold shoulders. They’re from people who’re gay or bisexual (which these days, bisexual people feel shunned the most).
That’s not what should happen but unfortunately, it is and I don’t like that people just suddenly decide who gets more priority over others. That’s not equality.
But I have to play devil’s advocate
That’s not being a devils advocate, it’s just plain transphobia. As if trans people somehow have the power social power to choose the worlds attention.
You say hate is for religious reasons, and then blame the victims of that hate for the attention they’re getting from their oppressors, the very people you yourself just said are responsible for it.
And honest opinion or not, you chose to spend your energy undermining a trans person talking about our oppression, when you could simply have chosen to not do that. And that shit is creating the very problem you just blamed trans people for
Do you even know what a ‘devil’s advocate’ is? No, so you just jump to a baseless assumption instead which clues me in, into how intellectually inefficient you are. A devil’s advocate is “a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.”
You continue to entangle and twist the context of my comments to squeeze into your narrative. And you want to talk about undermining? You are truly insufferable. Maybe you ought to take a look into the mirror and understand that your attitude partly contributes to some of the more legitimate problems people have against trans people such as you. And why your kind is being used as a platform to base trans people off as which is trigger-happy, oversensitive, broken people.
Congratulations for proving me right. And this is coming from a non-binary bisexual individual by the way.
show this thread to someone you trust IRL
My first thought was this, and when I opened the thread your reply was the first response listed as well.
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Edit: it’s… sadly very easy to forget that you don’t deserve the hate, which is why I didn’t put this in my post. It’s something I’ve been trying to work through lately.
Yeah. I feel like they get so much hate because they are the closest symbol for “maybe things aren’t as clear cut as you thought”, and it freaks people out.
I think also some people who feel like they can’t be as openly homophobic as they used to be in the 80s/90s/2000s have just transferred their bigotry onto trans people instead because they think they can get away with it.
Waterworld is a fantastic movie. Creative world-building, unbelievable sets, stunts and performances (Dennis Hoper as an over the top villain? Yes please) I just can’t understand all of the hate it received!
I found it quite preachy, but still watchable if you don’t think about it too hard.
“Oil = bad”. “Smokers = bad”. Hopper aside, the bad guys were as shallow as you can get in character development.
Plus at 2h15m it was about 45 minutes longer than it should have been, and Kevin Costner is a polarising actor for some due to his lack of charisma.
All that said, I watched it twice. Once partly to admire Jeanne Tripplehorn’s dress, which should have got a best supporting role.
it was bad for the studio. its production budget ballooned to $175M, total cost $235M. the most expensive movie ever made at the time. it lost money at the box office.
i enjoyed it.
I’ma put Super Mario Bros. up as a contender too. Doesn’t get much better than Dennis Hopper and Bob Hoskins.
I fucking love that movie. Blade Runners set designer worked on that too
I’ll put the movie as more ambitious than anything else.
May I see your Waterworld and raise you a Poseidon Adventure?
A lot of fun movies get a bad wrap for being unserious and I fucking hate it.
Poseidon Adventure
Which of the 3 movies and 1 book we talking here
Spin the roulette wheel and accept any outcome.
Where did they get the cigarettes? Were they 20 year old stale cigarettes?
I’ll talk all kinds of shit about that movie, but I’ve watched it end to end more times than most movies I’ve seen, and it’s never been a hate watch.
Best complaint I heard was “it’s just mad max on water” .
WTF? That sounds awesome.
Right?? How could you not be entertained by that??
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Finally someone likes this movie I loved it. I need to watch the ulysses cut sometime
Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton.
Both had awful parents and public struggles with addiction, but people just like looking down on “party girls”
TBF I think Hilton was deliberate to some extent. She rode the wave of controversy she created and made a name for herself separate from the family name. She’s still controversial, but she’s independent.
Lohan was just an addict in a downward spiral chased by harsh public opinion. Unfortunately the public loves to see a star fall.
I resented that culture insisted I care about people who, as far as I could tell, hadn’t done anything. I don’t care about how much someone parties, or if they’re rich, or have a sex tape. Lohan was an actor, at least- I don’t want to hear about Paris or the Kardashians because why?
I mean wouldn’t you want to separate yourself from people who put you in essentially an abusive prison/lockdown camp for nearly a year because they didn’t bother trying to help you with your ADHD?
Paris Hilton shares story of traumatic abuse while testifying before congress
‘Stolen’ exposes horrors of pricey rehabs for troubled teens
Mass Effect 3’s (ultimate) ending:
I get it. I get that after a series of EXCELLENT games that touted meaningful choices, “select an ending video” was lame.
Were there better ways it could have been done without planting an infinite “tree of death” taking into account every player’s individual choices from the entire trilogy? Sure!
I’m sad that this resulted in things like death threats and crap, from people who obviously have no idea what game developers do for a living. They obviously didn’t deserve that.
The added “green ending” still gets hate even. It was fine. The game was fine. It told a story and was a blast to play through. (Even despite EA’s constant executive meddling!)
I wish it wasn’t profitable to whip people into riotous frenzy over such things.
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Cyberpunk 2077 - it was overhyped as fuck but as someone who ignores the bullshit grind mill of video game journalism it was a decent game on release that became pretty fucking awesome after patches and the expansion.
Same with anything. I didn’t see the Barbie hype, went in an watched it and thought it was good. Same with the Wakanda film. Didn’t see any of the hype and had a great time.
Yeah I think once games reach a certain level of hype there’s almost no way to release them without getting a big backlash. People (IE gamers) tend to build these things up way too much in their minds and go in with really unrealistic expectations.
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For me it just crashed often enough that it was frustrating to keep redoing things and one side quest got stuck because an enemy was half dead in the floor and I couldn’t finish them.
I let the game rest and played it a year later, it was great then. Half a year later I played it a second time, with different gender, weapons focus, and starting background. It was great again :-)
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You just reminded me of another one: Monster Hunter World had a leftover behaviour from testing or so. The button L would rotate the camera to the right, as a hardcoded invisible binding.
That doesn’t matter much to most people, but I’m left handed, so my movement keys are IJKL instead of WASD. Rotating right whenever you want to step right is completely disorienting, I ended up returning it too.
It was a buggy mess on release and deserved the hate for that. Now 2.0 fixed that and redeemed it. It doesn’t deserve new hate.
Most of the release bugs were pretty minor and cosmetic - like cars exploding without warning.
It absolutely wasn’t amazing on release but the gameplay and world were fun and engaging.
Absolutely not lmao. They made an open world game that’s set in the criminal underground of a busy city, but the police was literally unable to drive until a patch several weeks after launch. Which A LOT of people didn’t get to experience because for weeks the game wasn’t stable enough to playable for them anyway.
Ignoring hype is the best way to consume media.
It honestly is. Pre-release hype is just marketing and we tend to enjoy things more if we don’t have high expectations coming in.
Honest question: So it’s still worth the ride?
I loved the vibe, and the Newtonian (-esque?) space battles, but I kinda dropped off, and after the ending was spoiled for me I was like “Wow. Saved myself the time.” Lol
But is the show worth it overall? I’ve liked things with silly/bad endings before. :p
Yes, it is still excellent even by today’s standards, and you can see why so many new shows followed their big budget approach.
There are a couple small parts that can be a bit hard to get through, but for me that’s just part of the situation they are in, and it is all totally worth it.
No matter what anyone thinks of the ending, it does at least have a conclusion. You are not left wondering or half expecting a sequel.
Cool! I appreciate your opinion! I should really stick to it this time. It seems besides The Expanse (still gotta watch that one) or Orville, we’re simply not spoiled with great sci-fi/sci-fantasy shows anymore. :)
No matter what anyone thinks of the ending, it does at least have a conclusion.
Oof, you’ve got a point there, pardner. (cries in Firefly)
U2 for that album that they gave away for free
I feel like, but then, U2 was on their way out as a band. They weren’t bad, but they were ubiquitous for so long that people were getting sick of them.
I know the band still tours and makes music still, but I feel like that giveaway was the watershed in breaking their popularity.
The same one that was installed on people’s devices without their knowledge or consent? I think you’re avoiding the real issue there.
It was added to the libraries in iTunes. Not forcefully downloaded.
Bono didn’t go through everyone’s iPhones
In an era when libraries synced automatically and space was valuable.
Bono did get Apple to do something invasive and shitty.
Mass Effect Andromeda. The hate was so intense it caused the publisher to disavow the series entirely.
The hate was because people were comparing Andromeda (the start of a new trilogy) with the entirety of the first trilogy. People were upset that Andromeda wasn’t grander in scale than all three former games combined. The gameplay was fine, and it was clear that they were trying to build the story up just like they had done with the original trilogy. There were several DLC chapters planned, and it was going to grow into an entire series of its own.
It’s like people forgot that the original trilogy spent an entire game just introducing the main villain. Like you didn’t even realize who the main villain for the trilogy was until the very end of the game. But when Andromeda did something similar, people got baby-mad about it.
Those weren’t even the main complaints about the game, I actually remember being there
The game had shit animations and a ton of bugs on TOP of being a less interesting game even when compared directly to just ME1
I think it wasn’t a bad game, it just wasn’t a great Mass Effect game. If it had released as it’s own stand-alone thing and had been marketed a bit less grandly I think it would have been a lot better received.
The hate was so intense it caused the publisher to disavow the series entirely.
The game wasn’t exactly flop money-wise, it sold about what they predicted it would and at least one big DLC was heavily hinted in the game itself. What really killed it is the fucking 2018-2020 era in computer gaming when multiplayer shooters propagated like crazy and idiot doomsayers and other marketing “experts” prophecised end of not only RPG genre but single player games in general, for example Bioware was ordered to drop everything and make the Anthem trash.
Agree with placing Andromeda here though. That game did had some glaring design flaws (like ship and vehicle being unarmed and alien having just few different faces) but overall it wasn’t nearly that bad as haters say.
Oh, it had some bugs for sure. It was rushed out the door by the publisher. But again, if given time to actually work on it, it had potential to become a new trilogy. The story was clearly trying to do something, even if it was mired by bugs.
I’m going to put up another movie, The Dark Tower.
I’m a big Stephen King fan, and the Dark Tower series is probably my favorite work of his, aside from The Stand.
I think the movie got too much hate from all the stans and it was clearly just farther along in the many turns of the wheel of Ka.
