Capitalism. Most of the other (daily, specific) dangers out there are dangerous because someone’s making money off putting other people in danger. I’m including the military industrial complex, but also regular industries and the exploitation of vulnerable populations.
What would you call the military industrial complex of CCCP?
Edit: I love that one reply is claiming it’s self defense, the other is claiming they’re capitalist
Necessary to prevent invasions by imperialists and capitalists who feel threatened by successful socialist models or who are looking to exploit other countries.
Imagine how much more they could have accomplished if they didn’t have to fear the very real threat of foreign invasion. Remember, they were invaded by foreign powers shortly after the revolution in 1918.
Ah yes
The peaceful CCCP
Known for not invading or suppressing anyone
Yes, yes, totally true facts 👍
Go read a book, chud.
> claims to know better
> unable to defend position in spite of this
Sure pal
…they’re capitalist. Tell me you’ve never lived there without telling me
Cars Lithium ion batteries
Fire
Raise kids
Fatty foods and fried foods
The internet as a whole.
Many good things are double edged
Electricity?
cars
This is the only correct answer. Cars kill so many people it’s absurd.
The car doesnt kill anybody. Its the driver on their phone, checking their nails, eating McDonald’s, etc that kill people.
Build a decent train line and those people using phones or checking they nails will not put anyone in danger.
I’m all for better public transit.
But for those of us who don’t live in a city, it’s not an option. I live about a five minute walk from my nearest neighbor, and a 20 minute drive from work. I’m not in a neighborhood or apartment. They could not feasibly build a rail system to service me and the millions of others who live like I do.
Busses are an option but then my commute would start hours earlier, and they would not pay for themselves where I live. Or I would be paying a very high fair.
Just build a rail system is not the solution.
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Ok, so I’m supposed to move when they build this new transit?With what money?
It is the solution for the vast majority of people (though I personally like bikes better).
Public transport isn’t supposed to “pay for itself”. How about asphalt roads in your area, have they paid for themselves?
Yes via the commerce that results in taxes. But the pint is that public transit does not get built unless you can convince law makers that it will be cheaper than any alternative to the government’s pocket.
Road related taxes are not even enough for maintaining roads let alone build them. Watch the below video from the 3.18 mark.
https://youtu.be/QPAil1xY42I?t=191
Tell me this, if your sparsely populated area justifies asphalt roads because of the “resulting commerce”, why can’t public transport achieve the same?
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. You’re not wrong. It’s the operator. If people actually drove responsibly, we probably wouldn’t have as many issues. There are definitely too many distractions, and people in general just naturally mind wander.
That being said, it would be much better to have a mass transit system. Less accidents, I can watch my phone, do my nails, and eat my mcdonald’s without worry of killing someone.
But that’s the thing: like you say, people are naturally prone to “mind-wander”, keeping that in mind and to then compare the amount of rigorous training and checking that pilots have to go through compared to the in comparison measly process of acquiring a driver’s license (and then indefinitely keeping it with no questions asked unless you do indeed run somebody over) is absolutely mind-boggling. Some countries have some safequards in place such as required driving-tests when you reach a certain age as a driver but it still does in no way account for how much of a murder-machine cars are and how casual we are about just about everyone with a shrimp for a brain driving them.
What we need is mass transit with cubes. I think a lot of the reason people dont like busses is having to listen to peoples screaming children, dealing with drunks, etc. I imagine a bus with small cubes that are soundproof kinda like those portable toilets but with a bus seat instead. Get on the bus, pay, go into an empty cube, slide the door closed. No crying babies, drunk people, etc. Pull the cord when your stop is announced.
Good idea but you lose a huge amount of capacity with the cubes. It would still be magnitudes more efficient than a car per person though.
I think if i remember right our city busses could sit 30 or 34. With the cubes i figure maybe 25?
Buses are designed to carry a lot more people than the number of seat they have since they allow for standing. Adding cubes would take away that standing space.
Dude also forgot that cars used to be cars and not ww2 tank sized monstrosities
they’re still cars in most countries
Not so sure. I see TONS of American sized Ford ranger and f150 around me…
Because it’s annoyingly pedantic.
No it doesn’t lol. You need an operator for a car to function. Cars just don’t go driving around running into people and random objects. If you get into an accident, who do they go after? The at fault driver. Not the car. It wasn’t the vehicles fault it got into an accident. It was the person operating said vehicle.
Operator error.
Edit: I’m starting to think most people here just don’t want to take responsibility for being stupid. Downvote all you want, drivers in cars kill people, not the car itself.
while you are factually correct that the human is a part of the chain of blame, it is systemically inefficient to blame the driver
in order to make systemic change and make cars safer, we CANNOT say “oh lol drivers fault, get good.” expecting that order of change from hoards of people is unrealistic.
however if i blame unsafely sized cars, fast, wide unsafe roads, a failure of US public transport—these are also realistic points of systemic change that i can point to.
tldr cars are unsafe, cars need to get safer, no amount of blaming the driver will solve things
Driver chose to drive, therefore taking the responsibility of not only their life in their hands, but others on the road as well. Yes, you blame the driver. Because the driver also made the choice to drive the vehicle, then chose to check their cell phone and cause an accident. It’s just responsibility at that point.
It’s not vehicles, it’s people. Cars are safer than they’ve ever been. People in general, just choose to not be responsible. And that’s the reality of it.
Don’t get me wrong, vehicles in general are dangerous in the fact that they are basically rolling hunks of metal with combustibles.
At the end of the day though, it’s just that most people aren’t willing to admit to themselves that they shouldn’t be driving because they’re too easily distracted in the first place.
Responsibility and self awareness. Put the phone down, don’t eat and drive, put your music on before you put the car in drive. It’s not rocket science.
The driver can be personally responsible for their own failures without that alleviating the responsibility of good decision making by those who are responsible for ensuring people are able to live their lives safely.
ppl just choose not to be responsible
you should look into some common causes of car accident, which include:
- rain
- night driving
- design defects
- ice
- snow
- tire blowouts
- fog full list
cars are safer than theyve ever been
overall, my position is the same as yours: the average driver is WILDLY unfit to operate a multiton chunk of metal on a daily basis.
however, it is wildy unrealistic to hope against hope that one day, every driving person will wake up and realize that they should drive safe. there has to be systemic effort, whether thats reduction in cars, increase in mandatory car training or increased access to public transport, in order to see systemic improvement.
At the end of the day though, it’s just that most people aren’t willing to admit to themselves that they shouldn’t be driving because they’re too easily distracted in the first place.
Is there any room in your mind for the possibility that some people simply have different values than you?
You’re acting like the only people disagreeing with you are people who have been in accidents and are looking for something outside of themselves to blame. You’re acting like deep down they agree with you that all error comes from a lack of competence and responsibility.
(Aside: I hate cars and our car-centric infrastructure and I haven’t been in any accidents, which means I don’t fit into your narrative here. But that’s not likely to sway you. And I know that’s not likely to sway you. Because I know you don’t share my perspective.)
But is it remotely possible to you that some people out there might just believe:
mistakes and errors are inevitable for everyone – not just for stupid, careless, irresponsible, incompetent, hopeless lost causes masquerading as people.
And even if mistakes were only made by those kinds of people – meaning a single mistake could mark you as a “bad person” – saving “bad people’s” lives is still better than letting those people die. Just because they couldn’t figure out a car doesn’t mean they deserve to die in an accident (or starve to death because their suburban house is too far from the nearest grocery store and they accept that they can’t drive.)
Is it really impossible for you to imagine that some people might just place value on human lives, regardless of cost and regardless of personal responsibility?
Prehistoric humans are now known to have spent years dragging around and caring for their paralyzed tribe mates millennia ago. Meaning the kind of people I’m talking about have existed for thousands of years. People who don’t care about personal responsibility. People who just want the best for everyone around them.
If you told these people, “some of your tribe mates will be incapable of safely driving vehicles. How should we build this city?” They would (once you showed them what all of those words meant) have intentionally laid out the city to allow those poorly-driving tribe mates to walk or use transit. They would place nearby grocery stores. They would direct high density housing to go up in the area. They would try to make it possible to avoid using cars. And the city they built would have 90% less cars because of it.
To them such a city would be an obvious choice.
You don’t have to agree with the cavemen who cared for their dying relatives. But please acknowledge that they existed, and didn’t hold your beliefs. Please acknowledge that the people you’re arguing with, don’t hold your beliefs.
Okay, yes. You are correct. The weight of the car is what does the damage since a bike or scooter doesnt kill people. However, the carelessness of the driver is at fault. If the person never got in the car and ate the big mac the car would not have killed somebody. Because the car would never have moved.
No, the driver just didn’t react fast enough or a light distracted. Its not always stupid reasons but maybe in your movie world.
As much attention EVs get car fires kill about 500+ people per year in the US and cause over 1.9Billion in property damage.
Regular gas cars have been recalled many times for spontaneous combustion while parked burning down garages and homes.
Most of the time however yes it is from operators driving.
The combustion is supposed to be internal, you crazy machines! Internal!
But if they were doing all those things while being a pedestrian among other pedestrians none of them would die. It’s adding the car that makes it dangerous.
Its also people who dont know how to cross the street or anyone who disobeys traffic laws. Ive seen bikes just run red lights, dart through stop signs, people just cross against the light without even looking.
Its general carelessness with regards to the roads
Ive seen people casually walk in front of lightrail trains against the light too. If they want to take their stupid out of the gene pool have at it.
Cars don’t kill anyone, dumb drivers do.
Okay, but we aren’t willing not to license dumb drivers because we have decided as a society that to lose your car is to lose your right to an independent life. We aren’t willing to hold dumb drivers accountable for killing people for the same reason. We establish parking minimums for dive bars even though we know people are going to drink and drive and kill people.
Almost got hit today by two separate dipshits not paying attention and/or having zero awareness about the size of the dumbass large trucks they were driving.
Edit: forgot a word.
Hm, interesting question. Dangerous in which sense?
A kitchen knife can easily kill a person. A match might burn down a house. Everything that produces CO2 or other greenhouse gases is extremely dangerous for the whole world in the long term.
Ladders. Most serious workplace accidents in a lot of trades can be linked back to falling from a hight. Don’t be cocky when up a ladder, even little ones.
Ladders are legitimately one of the leading causes of death and serious injury among otherwise healthy middle aged adults. A basic fall protection system with some flex rope and a climbing harness can be had for around $100. I don’t care if my neighbors think I’m a dweeb, I’m not dying for clean gutters.
Can confirm - fell from one this week. ;(
What happened? Was this at work or home?
At home, due to complete user error. I have a 4x4ft foldable ladder which I did not lock properly. I did see myself falling in slow motion, which feels really weird. And i dont know why this surprised me, but there’s nothing you can do to save your fall, you just fall straight down like a bag of potatoes. Nothing broken, just bruises and some pain. I feel really lucky.
RIP to this man
Corn Syrup.
Garage door. Then springs will kill you.
Why are there springs in your garage doors? Over here they are manual rollers or automatic rollers
You wouldn’t be able to lift the door without the spring acting as a counterweight. It’s usually a big roller just above the doorway on the inside (right near where the track curves in) with cables that run down to the bottom door panel.
So yeah, huge spring under constant tension.
They balance the door so it takes very little effort/ pressure to open and close the door.
Ah, somehow they do that with the rollers with no spring
^This. Leave this to the professionals. When you’ve seen one let go, it is impressive.
Sugar.
You could make the same claim for salt, saturated fats or even water if you wanted to. Everything is a poison… it just depends on the dose.
Our bodies actually need a certain amount of sugar . It’s why evolution built into us the craving for sweet things … sugar is instant energy and in the distant past that often meant the difference between life and death.
I eat a lot of sugar, but I also run 70 miles a week and swim 5 so all that energy is not only consumed but required. If you like sugar maybe the answer is to increase your excercise rather than reduce your intake.
No we don’t need extra sugar. We can make our own sugar from carbs, protein, and fat.
I think sugar is the only macronutrient we don’t actually need any of to survive.
Most people don’t put in 1.5 to 2 hours of excersise a day, I’d be surprised if the average person does 1.5 to 2 hours a week. That is a big ask for the average person. I’d personally would rather just cut out my snacking and go to the gym 3 times a week.
True, but there’s a difference between natural sugars, like from a strawberry, and the processed sugars (or worse HFCS) you find in almost every item on the market these days.
Exercise is helpful, but it’s hard to keep up when you don’t have time for it or the time to prepare your own meals all the time with fresh ingredients.
or the money to go to a gym or buy fresh produce
Your car. Just think about the forces and mechanisms invovled for this to happen. Every single day we travel at 100km/h in our 2ton at least metal box surrounded by hundreds of other people in their equally large and heavy and fast machines in a space barely wide enough to react in case of an emergency(not even considering if most are actually ready to act in such a case. All of this with realistically little training. Not to mention most people don’t really pay attention while driving and certainly don’t consider the life of others while doing so. It’s so impersonal and dangerous. If it was a never heard of concept, individual cars driven by any normal person would be considered laughably stupid at the very best.
The top three causes of preventable fatal injury in the US are:
- poisoning (including drug overdoses)
- motor vehicles
- falls
We might generalize these to:
- chemistry
- engineering
- physics
Also, heart disease
The third is more gravity than physics, or perhaps you should consider it the absence of gravity.
What I’m trying to say is: stop following geodesics.
im pretty sure the engineering is not at fault for most car accidents.
Sure, but neither is the chemist at fault when someone drinks bleach.
What about the chemical engineers creating fuels that turn out environments into toxic hellholds? Where does all of the pollution in the world come from?
We could use engineering controls to limit the speed of consumer vehicles to 10 mph, still faster than a human can walk, but slow enough that most deadly accidents could be avoided.
Then establish administrative controls to have public transportation or other professional drivers (taxi operators) have “unlocked” vehicles. They would be required to have routine training and testing to keep their unlocked license.
#1 Distracted Driving. …
#2 Drunk and Drugged Driving. …
#3 Poor Weather. …
#4 Reckless Driving and Road Rage. …
#5 Speeding. …
limiting speed would not affect the leading 4 causes of car accidents
It would affect fatal injury car accidents. A driver would have to be holding a knife pointed at their jugular to be killed in a 10 mph wreck (20 mph total relative speed of get hit another 10 mph limited car).
thats true, but we got to agree N°3 is solely Isaac Newton’s fault, for inventing gravity
