Unless anyone knows another reason for this impressive increase in comments? Seems to roughly coincide with Sync launching. If thats the case, just goes to show the importance of good third party apps.
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
EDIT: Looks like a confusingly labeled graph and I think this is total comments. I have no idea why that spike could exist though.
I’m using something called connect. I’m not sure why I picked this one but it works quite well. Is sync so much better? The hype around it is so impressive I feel I must be missing something.
If it weren’t for Sync I’d still be using Connect. Connect is, in my opinion, the 2nd best app for Lemmy right now.
It’s a very emotional thing for many of us. I’ve beed using reddit on sync exclusively, I just couldn’t be arsed to use the web version any more.
So when they killed third party apps, reddit was dead to me. Not only because of the terrible user experience of the web site and official app, but mostly because of the way they treated the developers after all those years.
After the lemmy version came out, I opened it up and everything was back to normal (except for the missing content).
I’m really hoping that the devs of other apps succeed in the transition as well and they manage to get a good portion of their users to join as well.
As for the FOSS fundamentalists: I really don’t get it. I’ve worked on open source projects in the past, when I felt I could contribute. I don’t get all the hate being directed towards sync though. You like your FOSS-app? Great! I prefer sync and I’m happy to support the author.
I used it for years on that other site, so when it came out for lemmy it felt like coming home. Not sure how much is just muscle memory and being used to it, but the design and interface are really well done.
Sync has a better ui and customization (in my opinion) and more functions ALTHOUGH at the moment posting and hiding posts doesn’t work, so I don’t know if I can recommend it at the moment
Connect is actually heavily inspired by sync. Sync’s nice, but maybe only a bit more polished then connec, otherwise the interface is very similar. When I tried sync the other day the search wasn’t working, so I think I’ll just stay with connect. Honestly, I never used sync for Reddit so when I tried it after hearing all the hype I was kinda let down. It’s nice but it’s in the same league as like 3 or 4 other apps imo (assuming they fixed search)
Connect is perfectly fine. I just used sync for a long time and like some particular things about it (e.g., being able to jump from one comment tree to the next reliably and quickly).
Sync has a lot more features. Direct imgur upload from commenting, live comment mode (if Lemmy ever gets big enough for game threads), open communities in new windows are some of my favorites.
I think some sports communities could sustain game threads here. The soccer community seems to have mostly stayed on Reddit, but Formula 1 definitely is active enough here for live threads for races.
Just tried it and it says "failed to upload image"lol so maybe it’s not running yet. When you hit reply it’s the image icon next to the folder icon
Maybe it’s a lemm.ee issue then? Still not working
Hmm looks like it. Works from my lemdro.id account but not from my lemm.ee account.
Edit: I’ve just checked, lemm.ee returns an error saying the image is too large when using the website as well. I think they’ve set it low to effectively disable image uploading (since it gave the same error with files under 1 MB).
Damn lol so I should be on a server that allows larger image sizes… That’s annoying lol
Before Sync I settled on Connect, it’s a really nice app. But Sync is a great app, one of the best implementations of Material I’ve used. And its UI is the result of years of work on the Reddit app, so it’s got a lot more features and is already more polished than the others, despite being in beta.
I still don’t know how this all works, but I’ll just keep blindly using it because I like Sync, and Laurence deserves our support.
You’ll catch on. It’s just like using Reddit, except each subreddit includes a web address in the name. Other than that, it’s mostly the same.
To put it bluntly, RIF is absolute garbage. The design is completely outdated and feels like a step backward from where we were even a few years ago
They are working on an app for Tildes, another forum kind of website. It’s called Three Cheers for Tildes! Currently in alpha on android, iOS currently under development.
Yeah, but 2 million of those comments where “Yay, Sync!” and the other 2 million were “REEE, Sync!”
5 were compliments on cute pets.
But were they cute?
It doesn’t matter. Even ugly pets are cute.
Well, where are said pets?? You can’t just say that without links.
Tho Genghis is the real kind of cute.
I love that we can see downvotes because next time someone is mean to me I’ll just think ‘you’re probably the guy who downvoted that cute dog’ and their opinion will mean nothing to me.
That’s a damn cute dog right there!
Cute pet.
He’s super sweet. He looks kinda homeless right now because I’ve been doing maintenance trims until I can get him into his groomer for a spa day.
My goodness, that face!
He manages to always look hungry and pathetic.
Same face, more dorito ear.
Yeah lot of talking about using sync vs foss. I think that giving people more options is good for lemmy as a whole at the end of the day.
On my side (writing from Sync) I was using Native A and basically using the web version of Lemmy, and when I clicked on a post it meant going all the way up and losing where I was in my feed, so I stop responding for a long time
Also, whenever I clicked on a post from the browser there was about 50/50 chance the comments would even load in the first place. Since Sync was released, it’s like I’m back home on Reddit. The browser works perfectly. I can hide posts I’ve already read. I can open the comments. I can leave comments.
People might not like Sync because it’s not FOSS or whatever but I don’t care. I barely even notice the adds and don’t give a shit about Google getting some of my analytics. I just wanna browse and forget my shitty existence.
Od day for now the level of adds Is correct, in not certain yet on which App I will end up only using, I am nor pro Sync not against, I simply want to use Lemmy and have a good time
This comment should be pinned. Are community mods able to do that?
I’m gonna blame it on all the sync haters just commenting about how sync sucks and why FOSS is so much better.
Lol
What do you mean there are advertisements in my free app?
I used Sync for Reddit for about 10 years but with the switch to the Fediverse I’ve adopted more of a FOSS mindset.
My initial reaction was vitriolic for no other reason than being disappointed due to my own expectations. I’m sure it’s still a great app and I still absolutely appreciate and respect lj; it’s just not for me anymore. But that doesn’t give me the right to force my opinion on others.
Ultimately I’m just happy we’re growing and I believe that’s what we should be focussing on.
lol. 3m comments, sync users and sync haters. Probably right.
I just don’t get the love for Sync. It was the best reddit app on Android like 10 years ago, but so many other apps surpassed it a while ago. Boost was smoother and had more options. As for iOS, Alien Blue and then Apollo were much better.
With lemmy, you’ve got great apps like memmy and Thunder that are imo better than Sync.
So you’re dealing with ads (or paying for closed source software) just to use a worse product that kinda goes against the FOSS philosophy Lemmy is built on.
Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion. I think it’s fair to say that most people here in the official sync community are going to disagree with you about it being a bad app. As for the FOSS philosophy, I genuinely don’t give a fuck. Cool that there are lots of FOSS alternatives but I like LJ and sync and have no issues supporting him. Nice that there are lots of options for different people.
I never said it was bad.
I just don’t get why people would use it over alternatives that have more features, are more stable, are free, and don’t include ads…
Completely agree, Thunder is SO much better and completely ad free.
There was a surge when Reddit killed 3rd Party Apps, and another when Sync arrived. (EDIT 2: Actually, this latest surge is on July 30-31… A day or two before Sync. It might be botspam.)
One nice thing about Lemmy’s growth, compared to Mastodon… The people who came here appear to be sticking around & continuing to comment.
EDIT: One thing to note about total user counts here… They can be misleading. There have been a few instances that were flooded with bot accounts that got purged over the last month or two.
I think it’s a good sign people are sticking around. A lot of people joined mastodon and instantly left because it was too much to figure out how to use. Lemmy is a lot better in its current state than where mastodon was during the first mass migrations.
I also think mastadon was trying to replace Facebook and twitter. A generalized assumption of those users is a lack of technical familiarity. Lemmy is the reddit alternative, and the users there tend to be way more technically proficient, or at least willing to learn.
Also there’s less friction to picking an instance. I’m not so worried about losing an anonymous account so I’ve made several on multiple instances
Totally agree joined Lemmy today and it feels just like Reddit with a few extra steps but oh well. Mastodon is it’s own beast to tackle
Impressive! Honestly I can totally understand this growth myself because it mirrors very well my own interactions here. When third party apps died I came here, tried a bunch of apps, made a bunch of comments and then didn’t really stick around because I couldn’t find a good enough app I liked.
Then when Sync released I have barely touched reddit and been 95% on Lemmy again.
I am still very impressed if Sync alone is responsible for 4 million additional comments per day though. That is rather staggering if it’s true.
Good point. I’m unsure on the exact dates/times/timezones involved but it does sort of look like there was a good increase in comments maybe a day or so before Sync release. If that is not Sync though I’m struggling to think what else would cause it…
I think a couple apps restarted on Lemmy around the same time Sync came out. I know boost showed up, and I’ve seen a bunch of newly released app announcement threads in the last week.
Probably a combination of new and better apps. I know I basically just lurked until sync came out. It just feels familiar, and all the features I want are just here. The only thing I think I want, is to see how many down votes are on posts, but it’s literally the only thing I can think of.
Do you know whether the same chart (or raw data?!?) exists but minus say purged instances? Is that even possible?
Not sure how useful it is, but you can choose various colums and get some further information here:
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Interestingly there is some definite fuckery going on with the stats - one server has 80 users and 1.2 million comments. So this whole thread is probably rather pointless when stuff like that exists lol.
Thanks, that’s awesome!
Mastodon has 2M active users and has been steady for quite a while now. Fediverse is growing, maturing. Also Lemmy is trying to compete with Reddit, and Mastodon is trying to compete wuth Twitter. Lemmy and Mastodon are not actually competing with each other.
An interesting tidbit: apparently there’s meshing between the two fediverse projects, given that they use the same platform. It’s a bit buggy though, and while you can ping people and they can comment here, it doesn’t really work the same way on the other side.
At least there’s a remindme bot via mastodon.
apparently there’s meshing between the two fediverse projects, given that they use the same platform.
What are you referring to exactly? Sounds a bit like kbin but I get the sense that’s not what you’re talking about.
Mastodon users can also create posts on Lemmy communities by tagging the community itself with an @.
In my case I was using a 3rd party app that was only barred from signing in to reddit, but I was still able to read and navigate the website until a few days ago. Now it seems that they have cut that access off so that drove me to create an account here.
How much comments does reddit have a day?
Good question. Best I could find is this:
https://backlinko.com/reddit-users#how-many-comments-are-published-on-reddit
Which says Reddit comments in 2020 were 2 billion (I think that’s net for the year not total all time at the end of that year at least?)
So thats ~5.5 million per day
Very safe to say Lemmy is not getting double that lol so these charts are misleading/confusing.
Hmmm yeah that doesn’t make sense but I’m too lazy to research into it cause I just woke up and have to marinate some chicken
Consensus seems to be the lemmy chart is actually total cumulative comments, but I can’t really work out where millions of comments would come from in a matter of days. Maybe some weird bot spam on some random instance that is being counted when it probably shouldn’t.
Enjoy the chicken!
Thanks!
federation with other previously unfederated instances full of comments. just a guess.
The chart is for ‘all servers’ already supposedly rather than from the perspective of a single instance though so would that be possible? Or can an instance exist sort of privately and then become visible causing a spike?
I’m surprised that sync had such a major impact. Still happy that it did.
It wasn’t because of Sync. The increase happened before Sync for Lemmy was even available. Notice how it jumped up and then didn’t rise again? Probably a dodgy instance federated.
Most people on Lemmy complained about Sync for being paid plus made by a for profit company.
The fact they did that it’s very damn positive.
Sync is made by one guy. Not a company.
So the Sync Apps LTD it’s a one guy company?
Yes it’s one person, the LTD is likely for tax purposes but it’s just him, no employees.
It’s not only because of Sync alot of other FOSS apps were released or got an update around the same time.
Yup. And most of the new comments are about these apps for Lemmy 😂
How can you tell? I can imagine that sync would have actually done much of this
I am a very active commenter on reddit, and right now, sync for lemmy hust feels like reddit because it’s pretty much the same. I couldn’t really tell you, but it would make sense that many people now have a design they were accustomed to before.
But if this increase was mostly from sync, that would mean that an average sync user would have had to comment 100-200 comments every day since then, because it has just 10k downloads on google play, which probably is the major source for most of those, so you might be right
You sure? The graph says per day, and there are parts where it decreases. I would expect a total to always increase, unless there are comment purges going on.
It’s confusing. It’s “average per day” because the number fluctuates based on uptime for various instances.
There are also instances which have completely shut down. That, and comment purges, as you mention, can cause the number to go down. It’s also somewhat possible that defederation between one site or another could cause it to fall off the stat sites’ trackers.
But the main point stands. The comment count jumped up BEFORE SYNC EXISTED.
It is possible that a significant amount is spam or something else, but I do find myself using Lemmy much more now that Sync is available.
Even I kinda find it very hard to find good content on Mastodon.
It’s just a plain timeline which I’m not sure I like atm.
Lol yeah I agree with Mastodon. I checked it out and it’s like…yep looks like Twitter, and I fucking hate Twitter, just feels like some weird celebrity and brand worship platform. The focus on Lemmy/Reddit at least is the content, and nobody really cares who posted or created it for the most part. Everyone is equal and content speaks for itself, it’s a far nicer concept to me.
When you follow hashtags you get all random useless tweets about that topic, here in Lemmy the upvote downvote, comment activity based algorithm is much better in filtering spam and junk
Yes, I am not saying Mastodon is better than Lemmy in that regard, but it is something at least, and you get an idea of what people to follow to boost your feed anyway.
I have seen some interesting things there that I don’t see on Lemmy, mainly speaking of some not that popular gaming or handhelds, but maybe this is an effect of a higher user base there than here.
Yeah honestly completely the same here, I had no clue how to actually find anything, and I far prefer engaging with communities, not people
And Mastodon has no top sorting or anything, is it was kinda useless to me
Never enjoyed the twitter style. But following hashtags and not people, made the content much more interesting atleast.
From the website (not the app) search a hashtag, select it and click follow.
I feel the same, I stopped using Twitter in 2010 when I realized I was neither funny nor popular and nobody cared about what I had for breakfast or how far I ran. Gave mastadon a try recently because I am interested in Fediverse but the feeling is same
Thanks for putting down my vague impression into clear words. I couldn’t agree more!
Mastodon where it’s focused on a person’s single post
This is a good observation, it means that kind of social media (twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn) is much more egotistical and self-aggrandizing,which in turn explains why people like Musk and Trump are so enamoured with the format.
Honestly, I learned that I like how sync presents content to me,and it’s really less about what site it’s for
