Or at least less so than Reddit. It’s good, but, I can’t put my finger on it. Even when the content is good, the servers are up, and I’m getting notifications responding to comments, it’s never come to me doomscrolling for hours.
Edit: Guys, guys, I’m not trying to say Lemmy should be addictive or Reddit is better because it is. The opposite. I thought being addicted to something was always a bad thing? I was just curious as that I rarely ever see the content droughts people talk about, so I can scroll for as long as I want to with no interruptions, but unlike with Reddit, I don’t, and I would want to know a reason why. Is it psychological? Something behind the scenes? The type of people here?
It’s not supposed to be. It doesn’t jam endless recommendations in your feed once you’ve gotten at the end of the new, fresh content. I feel like it’s a feature, not a bug, to have platforms that don’t optimise for time spent on them, because they don’t need our attention to show us ads.
I’m so happy this is the top comment when I came in here. We’re not centralized social media that requires constant content generation to acquire more views and we shouldn’t try to treat it as such. Donate to your instances when you can, contribute to communities you care about with posts/comments, and then when you reach the end of your feed log off. How forums are supposed to be imo.
I never realized all this but it’s so true. I browse and comment until I’m caught up, then log off.
Wow
Exactly. Places/communities like Lemmy can and should serve different functions for different people - newsfeed, forum, meme collection/dumping ground - but the fine line between value and addiction gets obliterated by moneyed interests.
Honestly an optional recommendation feature would be cool.
Yeah, I’d like it too, but I suppose it’s a lot of work.
The only person here answering the question lol
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Fiscally right?? Does that mean you write a check to Jeff Bezos every month?
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I just don’t get this “fiscally conservative” bullshit. You want to cut taxes on the rich as infrastructure continues to crumble? You want to hide your money in offshore bank accounts? You want to implement legislation that funnels unregulated money into corporate bank accounts then forgive all the debt? You want to use campaign finance to accept bribes then have the courts make it legal?
Edit: Maybe it’s you want to raise the national debt to record numbers then years later pretend all the sudden to be “worried about the deficit” and refuse to raise the debt ceiling and threaten to shut down the government.
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There is no karma system so no people shitposting and reposting as much to pump up their score. Without this kind of gamification there is less noise.
So then what are the up/down votes for?
Individual post/comment votes. They would only get used for post/comment sorting at best. Nothing more.
Cool, thanks!
Basically, no dark patterns built to keep you scrolling.
I am kinda glad, and it reminds me of early Digg. When I first used Digg, it didn’t tailor the order or content of anything to you, it didn’t use an algorithm to keep throwing content at you, changing the order of what you see, and Lemmy reminds me of this.
I’m not here up be addicted or scroll endlessly, if anything, Lemmy feels healthier, like I can walk away and do something else.
That must have been very early in Digg’s lifetime. I remember power users like MrBabyMan always being in the first few positions on the front page.
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The biggest issue is Lemmy shows old posts for too long on the front page
There is an easy solution to that:
That doesn’t have to be a bad thing. I commented on posts that were weeks old or a month old. Reddit had this bad habit that everything older than 30 minutes was irrelevant already.
Sure, seeing old posts doesn’t help to create an image of activity. But don’t think that something old is irrelevant, unless it’s a news post.
Change sorting to “Top 6hr”. I browse by Hot sometimes but that’s my primary sort atm
I find it’s better when I sort by top 6h
It’s like listening to the best band in your town and then comparing it to the music at the top of the global charts. The pure scale means you’re gonna get better bands if you include “everyone”. But I totally also hope Lemmy gets bigger. As a platform it isn’t inferior in terms of UX. We just need everyone to switch.
Tbh, I find most of the music on top of the global charts to be obnoxious bullshit.
That’s fair. Let’s rather go with a music platform. That has everything.
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I am currently trying several lemmy apps on android and most videos play in the apps. Some of them even autoplay as you scroll past.
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It feels the same to me, but with less jackasses. So it’s better.
Yep exactly! Jackasses still around. But I’m not having to block someone daily
Just enjoy the detox.
I think reddit applies an algorithm to put content in your feed that they know you want or like or interact with. That will make it more addictive. Lemmy is just grabbing stuff for you, period, with no personalized algorithm as far as I know. I could be wrong but I think thats why it feels different.
reddit manipulates their users just like Facebook and tiktok etc.
It wasn’t until I started using sync, and my scrolling time skyrocketed.
Same with lemmy, but i switch between like 7 apps when i need other functional features
Browsing Lemmy is like traveling in a time machine. It’s like the internet from 2012 to now didn’t happen and people are worried about the Mayan calender ending.
Yes, but I consider that a good thing
There is less content here than Reddit because there are less users here—less users creating content each day. Each of our comments and posts have far more weight and impact on the Fediverse because of this. The more we push ourselves to engage, create posts, or moderate communities when we normally wouldn’t before, the faster we will see Lemmy grow!
Actually, I’ve found just the opposite - I’ve been more likely to spend more time on lemmy/kbin over the last couple of months than I spent on Reddit in years.
It got to the point that I’d just pop onto Reddit, look around, see the same basic variety of botspam, astroturfing and concern trolling, and go do something else. It wasn’t even worth posting anything, since any response I got was almost certainly going to be from a bot or a human-who-might-as-well-be-a-bot, and it was going to be the same thing either way - just some shallow bit of stock rhetoric that at best might be sort of tangentially related to what I actually said.
But then I came here and rediscovered the pleasure of reading posts written by actual people who actually think about what they’re saying, who will actually read and think about what I actually say in response, then write a response that they’ve actually thought about.
And that was it - I was hooked in a way I hadn’t been for years on Reddit.
That said, it’s nowhere near as good now as it was a few months ago, and I have been less active recently. The last big migration in particular, after the API changes went into place, led to both more bots and more humans-who-might-as-well-be-bots, and the quality here went sharply downhill.
It’s still better than Reddit though. And it’s been improving again of late.
No bots or people posting the same videos/posts that get 1k+ karma trying to make money by selling accounts.
It’s gotten addicting to me. But not the same way reddit was. I’m glad there’s not much politics here.
Although hexbear being federated is like having an angry toddler in the house crying over spilled milk. I’ve yet to see a post from them that doesn’t sound like it’s coming from a basement dungeon computer room.
I’m excited for it! I’m personally trying to build some of the really niche communities that were big before, like the tiny EarthBound one.
Thing is, though, is the site really growing? After most have just put up with Reddit’s bullshit, I can’t really find recent statistics of Lemmy’s active user base. And the few results I could find just show it’s being stagnant, or even shrinking. I could be wrong, though, if it is growing, even better!
Have a look at !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl
Communities are growing
Growing is not linear, particular not when competing with a larger alternative.
What basically needs to happen is that Reddit needs to fuck up a couple of more times. Some smaller stuff will net some users, largest stuff, many. After a while critical mass has been reached and it’ll be easier to grown naturally.
Well, that’s at least what I think needs to happen. I’m fully confident Reddit will fuck up as well. Though, this is a marathon, not a sprint.
fedidb.org is good.
We’re still in the downturn from users who tried Lemmy, and then stopped using it. They are now dropping off the active usercount, causing it to go down.
Total usercount is still increasing, meaning new users are still finding their way here.
That’s actually a much more likely situation, sinc all of these sites use the monthly active users of it’s main metric, and it’s been 2 months since Reddit shot itself in the foot.
Honestly, I was so close to not using Lemmy at all. It looked so alien to me, like is this really the next most popular community website to Reddit? But no matter how clunky and unintuitive it was, I was determined to make it work. After some good third party apps, I’m more than satisfied.
However, can’t be said for everyone. It’s clear most people made an account, had no idea what an “instance” was, and then just gave up. Lemmy should invest in making their main website easy to learn and get the hang of, and try to become more popular, accessible, and branch out. Some might say how small it is gives it charm, but undeniably more people (maybe not on one instance) is better.
What this first wave has done is moved over a lot of early adopters, those types of people overlap with innovators.
Lemmy improved massively during the wave, and we are now getting great apps.
I for one will push for making signing up for an account in Thunder possible, so we can build better UX around joining Lemmy.
Lemmy itself has also seen a big jump in quality. There is now Photon, an alternative frontend that’s a lot slicker, and can be installed by instances to replace the current webUI.
The next time something triggers people to go look for something else, Lemmy will be looking a lot more ready.
