I should actually be working 8h a day, but most of it is spend not working. If I’m honest I’m probably working more like 3h a day even though I enjoy my job.
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Fuck I would love this, I build house trusses, no down time for me
My days vary, depends on the amount of clients. 6-10hrs and I am doing physical labor so its at maximum 10-15% downtime
6-8 hours each day, but I don’t think my situation should be the standard for everyone.
But who says you “should be” working the full 8 hours?
My contract
Is it? Or does it says that you are available for your work for 8h per day? Words matter a lot.
It always says 8 hour work day, doesn’t it? I read that as being at work but not working 8 hours. Nobody can work 8 hours of actual work unless you love your job.
Blue collar jobs: am I a joke to you?
physical jobs are good till you hit middle age and the body can’t keep up.
white colour jobs have a similar thing, younger people can thrive on the mental energy but the older i get the harder it is to mentally be “on the ball” the whole time . I think both white and blue collar jobs have different but comparable problems as you age. like sure I can pull a couple of full days if I need to, but burnout is real
My point is that blue collar jobs are often forced to work an actual 8 hours, under worse conditions for less pay, and this guy is like “oh man no one can actually do that, that sounds horrible”.
About 2.5 hours before lunch, then long 90 minute lunch, then maybe 3 hours. So I guess around 5.5 hours.
Maybe three
Same, as a programmer I would guess 2-3h at most. I mean actual coding with that, meetings and discussions take up the rest of the day.
Meetings and discussions are work
We found a manager.
The dude is right though. The most important part of being a programmer is designing an elegant solution. That requires talking the problem through, solliciting feedback, getting ideas… you meeting with ppl and talking to them.
The second most important part of being a programmer is realizing that you’re not doing this alone. Once again, you talking to colleagues to discuss what they can expect and when, likewise what you need and when.
Meetings are super important. Unless your a code monkey or if it’s office gossip or me having to spend an hour explaining why a job estimated to take 4 weeks will not be done next Friday. And no, “trying a little harder” or “realizing how important this to the client” isn’t going to change that.
They CAN be work. They frequently are an impediment.
For me, 2 hours of meetings, 1 hour of actual work.
Meetings are so draining, we should get rid of them.
Depends on how you define work. I do my dayjob for maybe 2 hours a day at most and then freelance with the rest of my working day. so I’d average 5 hours of work a day betwen the two jobs.
On average, about 5hrs a day. 2hrs on a slow day and 7hrs on a fast day.
I refuse to begin any new tasks in the final 2 hours of my day.
In the first 6, I work anywhere from 0 - 100% of that time. Rarely more than 50.
I only really do work in the last two hours of the day.
And in the first when I need to quickly fix an issue
I’ve had (no shit) a week or 2 go by where I’ve worked maybe a few hours.
I am on call quite frequently and when things do come in I’m on it immediately, but a lot of the time I am just trying to find things to do. I’ve even asked to be given more work and I’m trying to get into development during my downtime.
I think I’m an outlier though. My role is to maintain a particular service and when nothing is broken, I’m stuck with nothing to do.
After years of hard work, shitty work, long hours, working 2 jobs, graveyard shifts and long commutes… it’s kinda nice to have a break.
Some people actually get tired of being in your situation, which is something I’ll never understand. This timeframe me and a colleague were between projects and only had “on call” tasks left because we simply ended our entire workload way earlier than other required integrations (they were slow, not us who were fast, and we couldn’t move forward with anything beyond what was on spec there) was the best of all time. Three weeks of 4 hours of coding total, and the rest spent on just meetings. I actually left the office after the morning sync a few of the days with my lead’s blessing (so long as didn’t tell others).
referring to how much time working? or how much time I spend doing my job? I have no problem working in the garden or on the house – but having to do a job so I don’t starve or go homeless makes me a little resentful …
Damn it. I was targeting you specifically because I notice you using Lemmy instead of working. That’s when I decided to make a lemmy account and write hundreds of comments. Of cause they’re all written with ChatGPT. Who in their right mind would write over 500 comments in less than 2 months?
It was all a setup to ask this final question and expose you. You just destroyed months of work within a few minutes
It fluctuates based on workload, but I find myself working anywhere from 4-5 hours a day to basically nonstop during my workday (9 hrs). I do think most people are really only capable of doing “good” work, meaning being at their most productive, for about 3 hours a day though. The rest of the time is spent slogging through and putting out mediocre work, just to get it done.
The same for me (but 8 hour workday). Honestly, I couldn’t do the job if the working non-stop days were the default. I am wasted after such a high-stress day, so I need it to fluctuate. I also don’t feel bad on days where I do less, because I know I do a 110% on the other days. A workday is simply too long to be productive the whole time and the workload usually varies.
I used to make 80k in a career I hated working 55 hours a week (salary). I now make 50-75k (lots of OT available) working about 20 hours a week and watching Kodi/listening to audiobooks the rest of the time. I feel like I definitely upgraded.
Just curious about what your former job was and what your current job is
I was in corporate middle management and now I am a plant operator at a water treatment facility. I also had a crap 401k after 15 years of max contribs at the last job whereas now I’ll retire with a decent pension.
I work in the LTL freight industry in the US so I’m supposed to be working about 8 hours but lately it’s been about 10 and change
Good news is I get time and a half whenever I pass 8 hours on a shift
Bad news is my sleep quality has gone to shit
As an aside the reason for all the OT is because of YRC going under, suddenly all the freight they were hauling is getting off loaded onto other companies.
The boss today said that the mandatory OT is, “Only going to last for the foreseeable future.” He has such a way with words, the moment he speaks he just kills the vibe.