Both of them have issues depending on the setup. X11 has worked flawlessly in my experience. Wayland has worked the same for most.
Personally, Wayland still has some growing pains, especially in regards to Input handling (mouse, keyboard, etc). In X11 it was “trivial” to edit one file and have the settings stick across different WMs (switching from DWM to i3, etc.) There’s no standard for this with Wayland since it’s up to the compositor to handle these things, meaning you’re relearning how to do something as basic as setting pointer speed each time you try a new compositor. This is my only real fair gripe about it currently, as the rest of my complaints are just due to how young a lot of the Wayland-specific tools are - this will improve with time.
I’m in Wayland but that’s because I’m Intel Integrated. If it was Nvidia I might have leaned more towards X111
Wayland. I’m quite happy not to have to delve into xorg.conf for my keyboard layout.
Wayland, works better with games. Unless it’s star citizen, then x11 because it somehow breaks the elevators
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Gaming isn’t a valid reason. You wan’t games, use windows or a console. Don’t waste a perfectly good linux system.
Don’t tell people how to use their computers u lame
I can and do when people are wrong. :). Suck it.
Linux gaming has come to the point where many publishers and developers literally add Wine support intentionally and the game consol with the biggest game library of all time (Steam Deck) uses it but we still have people like you… If you want to use Windows you are free to do so but Linux is a great option by now too!
Wine is a shim, a workaround, not true native Linux support. Don’t care if ‘they support it’. Support native Linux, instead. Don’t give a damn if it makes their job less easy, you either really support Linux or you don’t. Black and white. No middle ground. Wine is being apologetic for Linux being Linux, which is unacceptable.
No it’s not. You are saying you are fine running a program not made for Linux on Linux. That in no way promotes the growth of Linux. It promotes a kludge, a culture of ‘good enough’ for a pile of dog crap that is going to break sooner or later. No wonder Linux can’t gain ground on the desktop. It’s frustrating as hell to watch for year after year after year.
Can you run games on proton / wine? Yes Should you? NO! Demand better!
I don’t give a fuck what the back end looks like
And that makes you part of the problem.
Wayland. It generally works a bit better at this point, and it will only continue improving while X11 falls behind. I occasionally need to switch back to X.org for some legacy screen-casting or remote desktop apps, but even the ones that support Linux as an afterthought are starting to add beta Wayland support.
Now that Hyprland exists… Wayland all the way. Its a bit buggy compared to Sway… but its fast, snappy and very lightweight.
How is hyprland any more “fast, snappy or lightweight” compared to sway…?
sway and hyprland are both wayland.
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Another vote for your answer. I just can’t be bothered to troubleshoot Wayland on Void if X11 just works already for my purposes.
Wayland! When xfce comes with Wayland? When Linux Mint have wayland? #linuxmint #wayland
Hopefully not until it has full feature parity with X11.
xorg, for keepassxcs autotype feature
Whichever works best for you. I would recommend Wayland to anyone, but if you run into any problems with it (either bugs with your compositor or protocol limitations), then just use X11.
X11 because my current setup on Wayland crashes constantly, otherwise always Wayland.
Wayland if you have more that one monitor. X11 can support multiple monitors but it is a disaster.
Rustdesk doesn’t work on Wayland and that is a real bummer
I run a dual monitor on X11 and never understood why people have issues with it? I’m by no means a Linux expert and I do run in Nvidia, I run different refresh rates. Can someone explain it to me?
If your monitors are different DPIs then multimonitor X11 is awful.
If you’re questioning why anyone would have monitors with different DPIs remember that laptops exist.
I run 2 monitors with different DPIs and X11 works without an issue. Can’t say the same about wayland where scaling still has so many bugs it’s just unusable.
You can’t set 2 different DPIs for the monitors on X11. On one monitor everything is just going to be bigger than the other. Depending on the DPI difference it can be basically unusable.
You can configure software rescaling using xrandr and some scripts… But that can cause a massive amount of jank with anything that requires a degree of pixel accuracy
Valid point. I forgot about 4K… I run just 125% scale so it doesn’t bother me at all. Well it’s kinda funny that both protocols are broken in that regard.
I feel like taht’s often the case but Wayland as the newer protocol usually has the correct architecture with a early implementation while X11 has hard to fix architectural problems. I am a opponend of “whatever works for you” and I think that will be Wayland for most people fairly soon if it isn’t already but in case it actually isn’t I wouldn’t recommend it because, well, it doesn’t work properly for you.
Even without considering laptops, I can already imagine quite a few circumstances where someone might want monitors of differing DPIs. I’ve actually thought sometimes of getting a smaller monitor I can have off to the side that I display a browser window containing mostly text on when I’m playing videogames or working in something like Blender or Aseprite; yknow, for referencing a guide, wiki, or manual or something. I don’t even have a super high desire for a multi-monitor setup outside of that.
I do similar. For laptops and docks, especially if they change setups it can be a pita (though you just need to copy files around).
Also the DE monitor config (ie that you use to login) is logically different to a users x config. So you gotta copy that over to make sure the primary monitor etc is right.
x11
2 monitors 144hz, 1 TV 120hz.
Nothing on any monitor can render at higher than 120hz
Play movie on any one screen, other screens can’t render anything at higher than 24fps
Wayland works fine
