Assume you’re life-lusted and are willing to abandon every moral you have just to live. Paying for cancer treatment is also worth prison time to you.
Also assume you’ve exhausted all ethical fundraising options, i.e. GoFundMe, loans, etc. and that insurance won’t cover treatment for whatever reason.
I don’t need money for the treatment. #publichealthcare
Finish that “non-violence is ineffective” essay (it’s dense). Join the collective on the front lines. Results: A) we gather steam and ultimately succeed. B) martyrdom gives my death meaning. C) prison provides healthcare and three squares. D) prison is so awful that we revisit B.
I don’t think I am able to make that much money even if I played along with your no morals all goes scenario.
Realistically I have zero chances of successfully robbing a bank or avoiding police if say, I choose to kidnap a baby and ask for a Ransom.
Drug dealing would be more believable, I guess I could start my own mushroom and marijuana business but I don’t think I’ll be able to make enough or grow my network as much as necessary to cover for expenses.
Used to see these people with multiple prescriptions for Percocets. They would use one for themselves and sell all the rest as individual pills to pay for treatment.
American healthcare system turned little old ladies with cancer into hardcore drug dealers.
Truer than people know in the US Especially the old Florida pill mills
Rugpull a ether fork
Join forces with a former student and cook meth in the back of a Winnebago
Sounds like a plan, Jesse
Jesse! We need to COOK!
Seriously though, drugs are the quickest easiest way to make a quick buck. Used to be able to scam the check cashing places pretty easy but it’s mostly electronic now.
Whoever’s downvoting you has clearly never pulled night shifts at a 7-Eleven.
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Find some black tar and start injecting to expedite my death. Why would I want to harm anybody else all because of my misfortune. At least I’ll go out in nirvana.
Why would I want to harm anybody else all because of my misfortune.
How about those who deliberately create that misfortune?
While you can’t fully control whether or not you get cancer, the cost of cancer treatment doesn’t have to be a “misfortune”. Cancer treatment doesn’t have to be out of your reach. Every other major world power has figured out how to fund universal healthcare.
The people demanding that you bear the artificially inflated, exorbitant cost of treatment are calling for your death. They are attacking you. They have figured out a way to literally murder you with institutionalized neglect. That isn’t hyperbole; they are running a protection racket, and using your death as a warning to others thinking about not purchasing their services.
The victims of such attempts on their lives should have no moral qualms against causing harm to the entities responsible.
🤔 There has to be a way for someone like that to steal the money without actually harming someone though.
If it was me, I’d go find an ATM tucked away from view of a main street and bust that bitch open in the middle of the night. Pick the lock, apply acid or dynamite, something. Book it before the cops show up or set off smoke bombs as a distraction.
I’ve heard that the success rate of bank robberies is far under reported.
Yes, but it’s misleading. Most bank robbers get cash from the tellers, and not even all of them. You might clear 10k on a really good score. It’s a lot of risk for little reward. You’d have better success with insurance fraud.
This person fuxks
From the usa, safest bet would probably be a heist on an armored vehicle, killing the driver and taking his clothes and belongings and heading to mexico to change the money and get healthcare.
Or better yet , you might not even need to kill the driver. impersonate or bribe a cop and just pull them over and take the money. Cops did that all the time a few years ago, targeting companies related to weed since its federally illegal, making the transport of the profit on interstate highways vaguely illegal. They still can, but they supposedly dont.
Seriously? You wouldn’t do crime to live?
I’ve had acquaintances waste away trying to delay cancer death. Hospice is not fun, so I’d rather go out on my own terms.
Plus, any kind of money making scheme I’d think of is likely going to end up like the “aim for the bushes” scene in The Other Guys.
Even for cancers with high survival rates, like skin or breast cancer?
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The money is a means to an end. It would be more efficient to steal the drugs themselves. As a first guess, threaten a doctor to steal the drugs and write out a detailed rota of what to take and when for you. Depending on the means used to coerce, leave the country afterwards. Or just live in a country with socialised healthcare
A lot of cancer patients need to pay for actual surgery or radiation therapy though.
I just get treatment because I live in a country that actually provides its citizens with healthcare (even if the Tories want to get rid of that).
So just ignore the question and sound pretentious?
Do you just call everyone pretentious who says something you don’t like? Lol
He’s misusing the term. What he means is to sound superior, and although I appreciate his spirit – the Europeans and Canadians speaking up are doing so outside of the context of and therefore against the spirit of the question – I think it’s fine, it’s good to have non-Americans with whom to compare responses.
That is the point of the post. There is something very wrong with this country, isn’t there?
I don’t have insurance because it’s too expensive and the thought crossed my mind this morning that something like that could actually happen to me, and if it did, I honestly have no idea what I would do. And then I realize that the society around me would get angry at me and morally condemn me if I did commit a crime to save my own life, and that’s when I finally realized that American morality is a fucking sham. It’s all designed to convince its subjects to accept being enslaved and murdered to keep the system going, and that’s wrong. What good is morality if it only costs you and doesn’t benefit you?
If you look at higher education, it’s also designed to convince its subjects that killing abroad for oil and economical interests is moral and good. In 2019 a third of Americans still thought the Iraq war was “worth fighting for”. And you’ll notice the question in the Pew research poll. It isn’t “was it moral” or “is it ok we killed 1~3 million people and destabilized and entire region for economic gain”, just “worth fighting for”.
That’s a bit unfair. This question is pretty much only relevant to USians and USians should be reminded of that at every possible opportunity. We’re trying to help you, man.
Is it bad I can’t even tell which commonwealth country you’re talking about?
Probably kidnap and random rich peoples dogs.
Prison chemo sounds like it would break the Geneva convention.
Create a fake news website and make sure there’s a floating donate button on every page.
Complain about Klaus Schwab and the WEF and talk about eating bugs and not owning anything.
Say the donation is for gods army to take on Bill Gates and his Clinton’s.
Make absolute bank in less than a week. Tried and true. These people aren’t going anywhere so you might as well mine them like the resources they are.
that totally fitional plan would involve CEOs, owners of pharma companies and pharma lobbyists. it would barely be stealing
