Since my favorite reddit app came to Lemmy I’m really keen on getting more people into the fediverse to pump up the volume of content around here. Are there any initiatives that we can assist to get folks onboard?
I had my wife join, and she likes it, but laments the slow pace of new material in the communities.
I actually think Lemmy needs more work before it grows much bigger. The mod tools are really lackluster currently. And that was a big reason people wanted to leave Reddit.
All I want is the ability to block inbox replies when I say something controversial.
I have actually found that people don’t respond to me at all when I say something they feel is controversial. I get a ton of downvotes and maybe once out of every 5 or so times I get one really persistent person who won’t let it go. But that’s it.
That would be nice, but for now you could just mark all as read without reading them.
Yes. Besides, there isn’t any profit being made, is there? I mean, today, more users just means more cost.
today, more users just means more cost
Not if they’re setting up their own servers. This kind of horizontal growth is the healthiest way to grow a federated network, and something we can do that centralised platforms can’t.
Well in theory, more users do mean more donations.
They need to add paid awards with some split for Lemmy development and the instance. That was the reason people bought into Reddit gold. It was a good faith, fund the platform thing.
Awards would only work for people on your own instance though. Pushing them across instances is difficult. If they’re free, they become worthless and defeat the purpose. And passing money between instances is stupidly complicated. I guess you’d have to go to the instance in order to buy the award there. Which gives people an incentive to run their own instance. I’d hope that wouldn’t make servers too small. As much as people seem to like the idea of many, many small instances federated, I think the system works best with several large instances than a million small ones.
I guess it’s complicated.
I completely agree. I'm personally holding off on heavy promotion of this platform until we hit 1.0. If people join too early and are turned off by the lack of polish, they may not come back after it's fixed.
The mod tools are really lackluster currently. And that was a big reason people wanted to leave Reddit
Fair point. The same was said of Mastodon many moons ago. A lot of people put a lot of time and energy into detailed feature requests, describing the problem to be solved, and exactly how their proposed solution would work.
Given that I’ve also seen the same complaint about apps in other federated networks like matrix, maybe what’s needed is a general solution? A website where experienced mods describe the problems they strike, and how social software developers could help them with mod features.
It’s tough to sell some of the niche communities without proper spoiler tagging, too. Need something easier to use that works on all platforms.
Lemmy in general uses this but a lot of mobile UI’s don’t have proper implementations (or at least they didn’t for a while). I’m not sure if liftoff is still in development but the reason I switched back to Jerboa was because spoiler support was finally added
Might’ve missed it but I haven’t seen anyone say “Make it not awful to use”
It’s helpful to say that we need better onboarding infographics to simplify explaining how to use Lemmy, but also, Lemmy needs to be easier to use. Finding and following communities is far too complicated.
I come here everyday out of sheer bloody mindedness because I want it to work, not because I enjoy it. Yet.
Lemmy needs to be easier to use. Finding and following communities is far too complicated.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071#issuecomment-1653885992
We need to get this proposal implemented. It would pretty much solve the issue.
I totally agree with this point that, Lemmy needs to be accessible easily, I started using it and find it useful because of boost app. Otherwise it’s very hard to understand and still is what is Lemmy.world what is lemmy.ml etc. And how to make them combined.
Let’s not forget to comment this on I needed account , I tried to sign-up with lublnfrom boost didn’t work. I had to Google sign-up for Lemmy.world which takes me to special form , which has disable login with disposable email id’s. All in all TOOOOOOOOOOOO difficult process for common users. Doing this process I am still not sure if I comment on Lemmy.whatever subs.
Finding community and joining it, I still have no idea. It’s all too complicated.
Overall
- What is a different Lemmy’s means
- Simplifying sign-up process and make it streamlined
- Make easier to use Lemmy
These would be my suggestion as Lemmy stands now.
I’m trying to wrap my head around this, the issue is a very long conversation. Basically two subs merge together if they agree, if a user wants to post, both mods need to see if it’s not a duplicate? This might add more complication with more merging like a 6 group merge or something, it could be chaotic with more mods and each other having conflict wars.
Yes this is the most critical. The apps that have been made are a good stride in the right direction but the fediverse is not intuitive to use
Relay for Reddit stopped working for me today. I won’t pay for content I partly create, so my shift will be final to Lemmy, unless my social media addiction finds another way.
Thing is, what Reddit still has, is the available history of content. If Lemmy has new topics and new content, it will at one point become second nature to also add “Lemmy” to a search query. And at some point hopefully without Reddit ever crossing the mind. For now it’s a slow and painful process as contribution is the only way to push Lemmy.
So whatever you do, contribute as much as possible. Then we can do it. I’d say push the bigger communities first, the smaller will follow, like how it was with early Reddit.
I also stopped using Reddit forever today, since Relay stopped working.
But I feel like there will never be a way like searching on Google for thing I’m interested in + Lemmy.
The problem is that content is duplicated on many instances, and those instances may even don’t have “Lemmy” in their websites
If we could stop pretending we’re superior to other social media that might be a start. The number of posts talking shit about the “average redditor” or suggesting that we need more “high quality content than reddit”, or that everything needs to have a meaningful discussion is exhausting. We as a group seem to want to dictate who can comment, who can post, what kind of post is acceptable, and are fairly mean to newer people. You won’t keep new people if you’re rude to them or they see post after post trashing them.
Engagement comes at the price of low effort sometimes. So does content. Not every post or comment will be a shining beacon of perfection. Sometimes people just want to talk. Some of them are starved for human interaction.
Stop trash talking the lurkers. They may be sharing what content there is here and driving people to Lemmy instances. They’re an important part of the ecosystem.
Ask what caliber of people you want here. Because it is very apparent to me that the loudest members only want a specific type of community member here. And they are very outspoken about that fact. But are they actively extending a hand to those people when they encounter them on any other platform? Word of mouth (or keyboard) works. It’s slow but it works.
It’s a difficult issue to overcome. You need an active user base so people have content to view, but people won’t use the platform if there’s no content.
“Rome wasn’t built in a day” - it’s going to take time to build the user base.
The first steps here would be to be active, post and reply to content. Try to get friends or coworkers to join, but you gotta give them the caveat that it’s early, it’s not going to be like reddit now but it could be!
Just casually mention it on other forums where appropriate. For example, any thread about how sucky Reddit is, explain there are other places to go, like Lemmy.
Can’t do that on reddit right now. Turns out that results in suppression of your comments and possibly a shadow ban.
- Publish useful content on lemmy. Link to that content on other social media sites
- Anytime you see a negative article about reddit particularly on reddit, remind users this will continue to get worse, link them to lemmy and explain what it is/how to join.
- Donate to lemmy development to improve UX.
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I don’t think spamming Reddit with Lemmy links will do much besides paint a picture of Lemmy users as obnoxious. I’d rather have Lemmy differentiate itself as more than just a Reddit alternative by offering something different and have the users come on their own. It’s not about quantity for me, but quality. For example, I’d love to see some communities that focus on long-form discussions and heavy moderation to promote a more nuanced debate. I’d also love to see some media outlets host and moderate their own Lemmy instances to try and move the debate away from Facebook and the likes.
More tits.
I have always loved these great tits.
Something about their body language. I imagine the one on the left is telling a funny joke, or maybe it’s laughing at something the one on the right has said.
MORE TITS!
I like the way this guy thinks.
Be careful who you invite.
Describe it as “openly leftist, there’s tankies on there” and if it turns them off, bullet dodged.
The tankie trolls will just seduce the right wing trolls. We need fewer trolls.
Need to find a new gallowboob. Better if it’s an actual group of users sharing the same id and pumping out quality content
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Adoption of 3rd party apps should accelerate things.
Sync has been available for well over 2 months, I don’t think that many former users will still follow. Sure, each new app will bring a fraction of its former users, but that’s not sustainable.
Well, I’m new and was brought here by Boost. Hopefully more will join
I will say that the Lemmy registration process was not straight forward. The link to register brought me to a page with no registration form, just a bunch of Lemmy servers and no clear instructions on how to proceed from there. Room for improvement.
This is what brought me here.
There should be an instance with an actual registered organization behind it - privacy policy & all to back up its legitimacy. Without this, Lemmy is a hard sell for a lot of people who don’t want to just hand off their information to a person who may or may not be doing certain things with it.
I think that’s fair, yeah. Explaining that some person I don’t know runs the server doesn’t quite sound the same as saying this instance is run by company XY
I think a better explanation of how to use it would be good, like that there’s not a native app and what an instance is. It took me some figuring how to get here.
I think that’s a good thing. Keeps out the riff-raff.
Keeps out the new users we’ll need to keep this place alive, you mean
This place was alive before the Reddit flood. It would be fine.
Haha.
True. As I mentioned, it was my favorite reddit app (Boost) coming to Lemmy that got me going. I had previously started to dip a toe into the fediverse, but it’s a rather confusing concept to think you need to sign up to an instance that may not have any specific appeal itself, it just give you a connection to all the other instances (except when it doesn’t).
They just had Jerboa when I signed up which I couldn’t seem to log in to for about a week. I finally gave up and then Connect came out.
That’s the struggle at first, getting a deluge of users that keep people both entertained, AND posting content.
Unfortunately I don’t think we’ve reached that number of users yet and it throws us into a vicious cycle of losing users who were also posters.
I’m not sure how to grow it on our end, other than continuing to contribute to the communities, but I do know that if Reddit keeps following Elon’s business decisions, they may end up losing many users as well.
