Discovered recently that Electric Wizard were kinda dicks back in the day. “At the time, we were pretty bad people. I got arrested for arson of a car, outside a police station. Tim [Bagshaw] went to nick a crucifix off a church roof so we could use it onstage…”
R. L. Burnside killed a man “possibly at a craps game.”
Varg of Mayhem Burzum burned a couple churches and killed a bandmate.
I could list other examples, but would like to hear from other people and other music genres.
Weird Al Yankovic is… really just an all around awesome person and probably won’t show up anywhere on this thread.
I didn’t fall for it. I would’ve heard about it if he’d done something bad.
Don’t scare me like that!
Cool answer, but ignores the question, no?
I wanted to inject a bit of wholesome into a question that will be littered with pedos, murderers and white supremacists. In the modern world it’s way too easy to focus on the negative and forget that some people actually do live up to your expectations.
I didn’t just want to troll with an off-topic response but make sure there was a glimmer of hope.
I dunno, him and Coolio had some beef in the 90s. When Weird Al parodied Coolio’s Gangsters Paradise with his Amish Paradise Weird Al didn’t do so with the consent of Coolio. Gangsters paradise was a deeply personal song to Coolio so he was understandably upset. As a direct parody it was protected under fair use but Weird Al didn’t feel right about it. So he reached out to Coolio, apologized and ever since then Weird Al has gotten the artist approval to parody their work despite the fact he doesn’t need to. Coolio did eventually come around and agree it was a pretty funny parody. Plot twist, (not really) that’s how humble Weird Al is, he didn’t do anything legally wrong and yet he still recognized he could do better.
That was all from a miscommunication- Al had his people reach out to Coolio’s people, and somehow wires got crossed. Al created it with the belief that he had Coolio’s blessing. Al has always asked permission, and a number of artists/songs have not been done because they would not grant permission. Examples include Paul McCartney (Live and Let Die/Chicken Pot Pie, because of his strict vegetarianism), Michael Jackson (Black or White, because he felt the message was too important), and everything by Prince.
While it’s never been tested in court, most of these parodies probably count as derivative works (i.e. permission is required) rather than protected fair use. A notable exception might be Smells Like Nirvana, since it was used to mock the original creator.
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Al assumed that since Coolio’s people gave 100% approval they had cleared it with Coolio so it’s really on Coolio’s management…but Al being such a stand up human being felt bad as he wants artists to emotionally be ok with their art being used. I also suspected at the time Coolio manufactured a little outrage thinking he was being laughed at…wanting to seem tough. Although beefing with Weird Al is not very gangster lol.
I’ve always felt sad that Coolio didn’t appreciate (early on) how amazing the Amish Paradise phenomenon was, it kind of made him and his song even more immortal…and his life has always seemed kind of sad. Plagued by health issues, mental health problems, family and legal trouble, financial struggles, criminal involvement. He did keep making some music and touring, had 10 kids, was on some TV shows. Ran for President with a porn star. But he has never seemed like he was happy or enjoyed success. When he died of an overdose he was alone…like OD’s always are. They cremated him and didn’t even have a funeral. 10 children and none of them said no, we have to have a funeral for dad…? As a father that is devastating.
Oooof.
Arcade Fire: Win Butler is a sex pest.
Brand New: Jessie is a groomer of underage girls.
Marilyn Manson: his videos from 2009- pretty much lay it out in the open, but he’s the fucking worst physical and emotional abuser of women. Just a shit human being.
I have stopped purchasing these artists merch and they have all been removed from my Spotify. Their records now live in my basement. When I must listen, I listen to my personal rips, alone.
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When I found out about Jessie I was very sad. I loved Brand New so much as a teen.
I still listen to them on rare occasion, but not nearly as much as before I found out.
Marilyn Manson is if a venereal disease assumed human form
More than a few of the musicians whose music I like have gotten in trouble for grooming, being pedos, and abusing minors. Two come to mind immediately because I found out recently: BoyInABand and Geoxor. There’s probably more musicians like that whose news I haven’t heard of.
edit: I don’t follow this band but seems like lostprophets had an even worse situation.
Edit2: I read a bunch of the comments and a very prevalent trend is musicians getting in trouble for being pedos. Why so common?
The Boyinaband thing sucks, used to like his collabs with Andrew Huang :( Boyinaband won’t get any of my views anymore.
My favorite musicians, writers, sports stars, and TV crew are pretty cool for the most part, though there’s a childhood program of mine where all the original actors just hate working with one another, to the point where when Jason David Frank ended his life a few months ago, only one actress said a single word of sympathy. Arguably worse than being a jerk to the fans, from a certain perspective. That and the company/studio has some very EA-esque habits.
Didn’t know that!
Back when I was a teenager I loved Lostprophets. I didn‘t hear about Ian Watkins becoming one of the worst people in Wales until a few years after they disbanded.
Crystal Castles is also pain listening to nowadays with Alice and Ethan.
Forgot about Crystal Castles, that’s definitely a strong contender for the top shitty place
What happened with Crystal Castles?
Ethan Kath abused Alice Glass enough to the point of her just up and quitting the band. She was only able to come forward when she found four other women who were abused by Kath .
Fucking Tim! I don’t like As I Lay Dying but I LOVE Austrian Death Machine (another band of his). Sucks that they’ll never make any more music. Arnold Schwarzenegger themed metal is great. NEEAAAAHHHH! GUITAR SOLO!
I was really sad when I had to stop streaming Austrian Death Machine.
So I’m a huge fan of The Smiths…
Yeah, Morrissey is a dick for sure. Such a shame as I love a lot of The Smiths and his other work.
I feel for you. My first concert was a Morrissey one. After finding out about his support for For Britain, I’m not supporting him anymore. Yet he still has his defenders…
What does it mean “defenders.” Am I a defender if I’ll still go to a concert? Morrissey didn’t start saying stupid things yesterday, he was always stupid. Reading his autobiography which I have done but don’t recommend to others reveals he’s always been a pretentious weirdo without the goods to back it up, expect the musical talent.
There’s being pretentious and stupid, and then there’s being a full on racist and hatemonger. The latter wasn’t apparent until more recently.
Bengali in platforms…
He’s always had the race stances of a white British man of his age. You just weren’t paying attention.
Possibly. And had that one song remained the only indication of his mindset, I would still, possibly, be listening to his music. But it didn’t, and here we are.
But most of his music is not racist at all. In fact that’s probably that one song. Most of his other stuff is about being a weird middle aged gay man.
He has only been middle aged for less than half his career, depending on your definition of the term, and he has at various stages of his life described himself as bisexual, asexual, celibate, ‘humasexual’ and explicitly ‘not a homosexual’, but besides that: Yes. Which illustrates why his various -isms haven’t been obvious until more recently.
it was hilarious how he got shit on for waving the union jack and then 2 years later its everywhere and every big brit band has one, like oasis and blur
Red House Painters, specifically Mark Kozelek. I think the things he was accused of were from his Sun Kil Moon days, but it still sucks. Those first couple of albums I have listened to dozens of times.
Crystal Castles and Sweet Trip also have intraband sexual assault allegations, which really sucks because then I’m a fan of both the victim and the predator.
Mellowed out over time. They all do it and it makes me sad.
Oh hey I know what this hardcore three piece needs, a symphony backed album. A rock ballad. A mandolin solo. Interpretive drums. Take something pure and water it down until it is no longer recognizable.
Give me loud riffs, simple drums, and boss lyrics pls.
This.
They all eventually release an unplugged album which sounds like all the old upbeat tempo tracks as 45 played at 33⅓.
I want to cry a lot. Mainly because I can’t buy the aforementioned 33⅓ and play it at 78 because I don’t have a record player anymore.
I’m Gen X and I still hate Country and fucking Western. If anyone sees me looking admiringly at corduroy or jackets with leather patches, have a lethal implement to hand. This note hereby indemnifies …
/rant
Justin Sane, frontman of punk rock’s Anti-Flag, was recently accused of “predatory behavior, sexual assault, and statutory rape.”
Allegedly he’d eyefuck girls from the stage during shows in a very “That’s right, I’m a rockstar, lookin’ at you” kind of way, and somehow get them invited backstage later.
His bandmates disbanded after the news broke. Bandmates say they weren’t aware, that they stand with the victims, and they condemn his actions.
I saw Anti-Flag at a small venue years back and it makes me wonder if it happened to fellow concertgoers that night.
I haven’t listened to a ton of Anti-Flag in recent years, but they were a big part of me getting into punk decades ago and this one sucked to find out.
I just saw them with Flogging Molly. Must have been one of their very last shows. They’re new album is so good, but they’re dead to me.
This one gets to me. Not because I liked them that much, but because Justin has always been a dick and I could just write it off as “yeah they were a bunch of dicks but they put on a good show”. An Anti-Flag show in the 2000s, here at least, was one of the few times a punk show wasn’t in a basement somewhere, so it was absolutely THE place to be if you were in the scene. They also frequently had great bands with them so it always made for a great time.
But after the accusations came out it left a real bad taste realizing that he’s probably much more than “just a dick”.
Oh wow. They are responsible (in a roundabout way) for me
lookingloving extreme metal, so that’s sad to hear.
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deadmau5 used to be a massive internet edgelord for very much over a decade (think the targeted harassment of Krewella was particularly awful, even if their producer shared his lawyer) until he had some heated moments that forced him to realise he wasn’t all there and change his ways. He’s still very truthful about the world of EDM but he’s not the edgelord he once was, and he’s much better for it.
ED(M)dgelord
Came in here to mention how much a of a dick Maynard was to a seamstress friend of mine. It was an hour or so before showtime and she had the audacity to replace the button on his vintage leather Cavaricci pants with one that wasn’t an actual Cavaricci button. He treated her like a foolish peasant that should have been more prepared to deal with an elite. Seems kinda light considering the other posts, but anytime I can call him out for being a dick, I’mma do it.
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Tool has been my favorite band for ~25 years now. I’ve been a fan through nearly their entire history and if there’s one thing that’s been a consistent element of the band, it’s that MJK is a fucking prick. No two ways about it. He’s a little shit with a HUGE ego and he’s just not a pleasant human. Creative as hell and damn good at what he does but a massive massive dick head. He’s not the reason I like Tool though and I wouldn’t even call myself an MJK fan, I dislike him in a lot of ways but when it comes to him, Danny, Adam and Justin laying down some badass fuckin jams, no one does it for me like Tool. Danny and Adam especially. They are the core of Tool for me and I think MJK gets waaaaay too much credit for the band.
Spot fucking on.
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Yeah I am a bug fan of his music, but I can 100% see Maynard being a bit of a dickish prima donna. I guess they can’t all be real ones 😞
