You’d rather not know that someone you might find yourself working with could turn on you in the blink of an eye for a reason you’re not even aware of?
I only read the first comment and the use of a slur and deep transphobic talking points made me stop reading the rest.
As a trans woman myself… thanks for all this non transphobia in this comment thread <333
What a charming person, I would love to run him over with a steamroller.
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How dare you be upset when you are insulted!
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Really? Jokes about steam roller counts as violence? Those Looney Toon be a real scary show for ya? Wild they make it for kids.
Shame on you. Feign your mock outrage and cry those crocodile tears, for the rest of us are laughing at the sad transparency.
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You’re reaching and you know it.
Because it’s a very silly question, one that I’m not going to entertain because…
Do you really think this person is out renting a steam roller? And trying to find the street address of that person now?!
You are steching so hard to call this a violent threat when it could not be more silly. You’re not motivated by “preventing violence”, because the entire premise here is ridiculous at face value. You’re motivated by wanting to call trans people unstable.
Go tell your friends, your boss, your family you stopped someone from getting killed by a steam roller by saying “tut tut, ur crazy” on the internet. You know damn well they are gonna laugh at you.
you should die too, you worthless bigot
Under the steamroller with you! There’s no stopping the gay agenda! mwhahahahaha
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Do you also think video games encourage violence?
First, many, second, how do you feel personally threatened by a drawn steamroller running over xenophobes?
You’re the kind of person who believes Onion headlines
Good job reinforcing the fact that transphobes are dumb as shit
how I sleep after calling for violence against shithead transphobes
Rage bait. Don’t fall for this, fellas.
stfu nerd
Respectability politics is nazi shit
Sorry for the Windows emojis lol, I’m on a computer shop as I post this on lunch break
I would never have known if you hadn’t told me. XD
I remember back when I thought all FOSS was part of the FSF, and that itself was formed of hippie liberal progressives. Had a rude awakening when I found about the MIT vs GPL rift, and then another on HN when I realised half the people in software were just there to make money.
So like… and hear me out, software has just changed over time. Way more people use and develop it now, so it kind of makes sense that it would revolve around what most people are interested in. That’s not really hippie liberal progressive stuff. I’m in it for that. I’m all about the GPL. But while we are a relative minority, it’s not like our absolute numbers have dropped or even stagnated.
I’d say we’re growing at a steady pace. I think it happens with pretty much all new forms of art. Look at video games, movies, music, etc.
My simple worldview: The Linux kernel is a good thing. A community driven project that betters the world by putting control into the power of the people, written by the goodwill of developers in their free time, and later, reluctantly by big corps who saw it as a threat too big to ignore.
To my naive self, these were all sure signs that the world was moving progressively to the side of the economic left, born out of a need for a common world computing infrastructure/kernel. Nice people doing nice things for other people. Sharing/caring, etc. etc. I genuinely assumed a strong social left movement dominated computer science.
Again, I was shocked by how many people just wanted to use it to found their startups, not share their code, or not contribute anything back to the frameworks that empowered them.
I had a period where I didn’t really understand the GPL or what it was trying to do. All I knew is that it was ““viral”” (whatever the hell that meant!) and that, supposedly, trying to use it would forever bind you and your creation to who knows what unforeseen legal horrors. I mean, look how long it is! It’s frightening! I wanted absolutely nothing to do with it at first.
Then I got a clue and actually read it. It’s quite straightforward. For almost all serves and purposes it’s basically just MIT plus copyleft. All the legal density is just an effort to squash every conceivable loophole to the copyleft directive. I’m no longer afraid of it, I think it’s pretty cool.
The thing I want to know now is why so many projects think their shit don’t stink and that they need to pollute the FOSS ecosystem with their own stupid permissive license that is functionally identical to the MIT license.
Could be they like the idea of being in control of the license or something like that
Could also have to do with running a gauntlet of lawyers to be allowed to open some code you wrote.
tl;dr?
Lol, if we start excluding tech based on the inventors mental illnesses we are gonna end up bashing rocks together to make fire.
Edit: To be clear, I am not saying that being trans is a mental illness, only refuting that mental illness is not a reason to discard ones contributions. Apologies for any offence.
let me tell you about the guy who invented bashing rocks together …
Goes back further than that, Turing was gay, so anything building off his works must also be transitively gay.
To add to the modern examples, Reiser murdered his wife, which really puts “devil cunts” into perspective :D
Goes back another 100 years before that. Lovelace was a woman, who in her time wasn’t supposed to be doing anything at all
OpenBSD got a grant from the DoD, and then Theo posted his opinions of the post-9/11 US government, and they put a stop on the check before it even crossed the border. He pissed a lot of folks inside the Beltway off that day.
Except all our hardware is made by major corporationw and there are no major corporations that work totally ethically and morally
Freedos is not MSDos though. And how is x86 evil?
Have you ever tried programming in straight x86 assembly? :P
RISC-V is a good start though
Yes but who is going to manufacture that chip and board and components?
3D printers, eventually?
Perhaps, but that’s quite far away still
pretty hard to do computation on a pdf. which is what risc-v is. You need someone to design and build a chip according to what’s in those pdfs
i was replying to the point that all hardware is made by large corporations. That will not change, irrelevant of whether the isa is open source or not.
and arm do not manufacture chips. Usually tsmc or samsung do. The fact that chips exist is orthogonal to the argument of who ends up manufacturing them
Have you seen the Star64?
Are there any performance benchmarks for the Star64?
Pine64 claims the chip to have performance similar to certain Cortex-A55 processors, which would put the Star64 on par with the Raspberry 4 series. Is that true?
Well, using the same metrics would mean TempleOS is waaaaay out of the question.
Maybe Terry Davis was the real world Wonko the Sane?
About as much as having a single functional eye in a country where everybody is blind makes you king.
It’s so easy to be called *phobic these days. It reminds of those relationships in which people feel like they are walking on eggshells.
.>calling being trans a mental illness
incredibly sus ngl 
Being trans is not a mental illness but let’s not encourage stigma around mental illness either.
Cis people with mental illness are valid
Trans people with mental illness are valid
Mentally healthy trans people are valid
Mentally healthy cis people are valid
I mean, being trans is perfectly valid, but I think gender dysphoria itself should be classified as a mental illness so long as it brings significant pain/distress to the individual, the solution there is just gender reassignment, surgery, hormones, etc. I don’t think there should be stigma in calling it such, it needs treatment the same as anything else. People with ADHD have a mental illness and get meds, sometimes therapy, people with poor eyesight have an ocular dysfunction of some kind and get glasses or surgery or whatever, none of it should be that big a deal. The point is it can be diagnosed and treated.
I think the response to shit like “transgenderism” being a mental disease should be “well at least their/our dysphoria can be treated now, what’s your excuse?”
The original post called it a mental illness, i was following that. Apologies if I caused offence it was not intended.
So do you also think it is a mental illness, or are you just being a middle school edgelord?
The original post referred to it as a mental illness, and claimed that was a reason to ignore their contribution. I was simply pointing out the silliness of that logic. I dont think its a mental illness, amd I have absolutely no problem with the trans community.
was simply pointing out the silliness of that logic
There are many, many ways you could have done that without repeating the bigoted belief that being trans is supposedly a mental illness.
I didnt say anything about trans people in my original comment, and deliberately didnt quote the original post as its language disgusts me. Again, sorry for any offence caused, it was not intentional.
I didnt say anything about trans people in my original comment and deliberately didnt quote the original post as its language disgusts me
So why did you repeat the “mental illness” part?
If you really mean what you’re saying just take the L this one time and move on.
don’t threaten me with a good time
Ah, the James Damore archetype of an engineer. I bet they get wet dreams imagining themselves as the Howard Roark of programming (and just as delusional).
You want give some context here? We don’t even know who is speaking in these screenshots, and to what end. Why would this even be a conversation?
Seems like some open source dev that responds to the “boycott wayland gist” and is against wayland.
It’s like the systemd argument all over again. SIGH
[Completely unrelated to the content] How the heck is this post managing to crash two out of my three lemmy clients?
It’s probably Wayland
Evil Wayland is making their app crash
same for me
Jerboah works fine. Really after trying around its the best
Have you tried Eternity?
Yup, makes no sense as I dont need multiple accounts for privacy, yet. And its broken in many features
Maybe they don’t support multiple images at once?
Make sure to report it 🤠
sigh, people suck.
This is actually something that bugs me about GitHub - I’m a Professional Software Developer, and we use GitHub enterprise internally at work (don’t @ me, we don’t have the budget to run our own infrastructure, BitBucket is crap and the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs). I’m also in charge of a team, and actively encourage the team to contribute to open source - find a bug? Draw up reproduction steps, report it upstream, and Fridays after lunch are dedicated to getting those bugs fixed. One of these days one of my team is going to run across one of these assholes, and I’m going to have a proper HR incident on my hands because that is a hostile work environment. Doesn’t matter that it is a member of the public being a dick, I’ve got an obligation to ensure that my staff have a workplace free of harassment, and I’ve got absolutely no recourse against this other than to say “cool, we don’t contribute to this repo anymore”.
the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs).
I’m guessing they looked at your company and decided you weren’t worth enough to them.
We found Gitlab’s pricing to be, frankly, ridiculous for the number of seats we have. Shame, the product is nice, just the sales team and pricing structure blows goats.
Rules around preventing a hostile work environment don’t place an obligation on anyone to prevent it at all costs. It means that if an employee or - more relevantly here - a customer - is being hostile, then the workplace needs to make sure the employee or customer stops. But if you work in a call centre cold calling people, your company isn’t going to get fined if you get an earful of abuse. (They might get fined for cold-calling depending on specifics :P) Same here.
that is a hostile work environment
I understand your frustration. I go to GitHub für code, not for some weirdo’s Telegram channel. But, come on, do your employees have access to the internet? Does someone maintain a Facebook page on the clock? Is Google allowed? Reasonable people can distinguish between workplace and internet hate.
Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job, as opposed to just randomly stumbling across hate while browsing the internet - if I’ve directed one of my staff to “submit a PR to this repo and work with the maintainers to get it merged” and some asshole drops into the comments they are being forced to engage in that situation, and that is not ok.
One case that I’ve heard of is a pizza delivery place that had to pay some serious compensation to a couple of their delivery people because they refused to stop accepting orders from someone who would be super abusive if their delivery person wasn’t a white guy. Management knew what was happening, the drivers had complained and asked for a resolution, management had refused to do anything about it, so the business had to pay compensation.
Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job
I agree. This makes it a workplace problem. Sucks.
Unsurprising. I’ve seen a fair amount of people in the Linux community like this.
It’s also quite hilarious to see them frothing at the mouth so much over Gnome getting some money to aid in accessibility improvements lol. Can’t be having the less abled using computers now, can we?
Wait until FOSS nerds learn that the NSA and DoD are some of the top upstream contributors to FOSS projects.
He has a point, but it’s not really limited to trans people.
Mental illness in general seems to be revered among this generation, for some reason. I had to make some decisions about what sexes to include in my app, and I just went with ‘male, female, and other.’ I know that’s going to piss some people off, but they can just deal with it.
The amount of additional work required to add and maintain a list of genders just isn’t worth it. Thankfully this is mostly an issue in Western culture, and my app is worldwide.
People with an agenda expect you to bend over backwards to support that agenda because they care more about their agenda than what you’re actually doing.
Nobody will get upset about those 3 options. People might get pissed though at you being a dick about it and yelling about mental illnesses.
But its a nice excuse to be a bigot and then when people call you out, just act like its about the options in your application.
Who is yelling/being a dick? I’m talking about “people with an agenda expecting you to bend over backwards to support that agenda because they care more about their agenda than what you’re actually doing.” There are people with mental illness who suffer genuine duress when others don’t “bend over backwards to support their agenda.”
On the other side of the spectrum, you’ll have people getting mad I even include an ‘other’ option at all. Why? Because it goes against their agenda. They don’t actually care about what I’m doing. They want to use it as a prop to support their ideals.
You seem to have contempt for the people you’re describing. You would have had a winning comment if you had said the second sentence of the original comment and stopped. No need for the dismissive commentary.
Nah, that won’t work because people are exposed to other users based on their preferences.
They would need to match preferences exactly, which I could allow them to specify but I think it would overcomplicate things without much benefit.
It is not nice to generalize.
