I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.
People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.
Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?
There has been an uptick in right wing nutbags and bOtH sIdEs morons… Coupled with the fact that we have to deal with Trump AGAIN had made all of us angrier because we didn’t believe our neighbours could be THIS dumb to vote for a criminal that tried to overthrow democracy.
It’s resulted in a tone of “I’m sick of this shit!!” from the left
Trump is a cancer.
So you’re targeting half the US population with this “dumb people” accusation? And you feel this is tolerant and polite?
Half at a minimum.
Tolerance always has a limit. And the one thing any tolerant society can never tolerate are intolerant people - because they will destroy that society. Trump and his followers are the very definition of intolerant.
Thus the “if you are tolerant, you have to tolerate me” argument is often used by aforementioned nutbags or internet trolls, and I very much hope you fall into the latter category.
And regarding stupidity - sadly there is no mechanism to ensure that it is fairly distributed. A less than ideal public school system paired with the propaganda of media conglomerates can easily result in a society with half the population considered “dumb” (not really stupid, but brainwashed / uneducated with a lack of critical thinking and/or a lack of basic scientific knowledge …) - but I would not judge the US population that quickly. Trump is probably also a symptom of the broken US democracy.
I certainly didn’t write “if you are tolerant then you have to tolerate me”. However what I wrote I can’t recall. Something about not being so nasty to dumb people. I stand by that statement. I don’t speak ill of dumb people or Trump supporters as a whole. The only reason to do such a thing is to incite anger from a group.
I don’t tolerate those who have no respect for others. If you hate women, gays, trans people… No I won’t tolerate you.
You’re calling people nutbags, morons, dumb and cancer in the span of 4 sentences… Yes, for sure the “right wing nutbags” and “bOtH sIdEs morons” are the issue here. Stay humble buddy.
Did you miss the part where I’m saying that their stupidity is causing us to be more angry?
I also find a lot of lemmy replies is idiots replying and criticising a comment without adding any corrections.
Are right wing shooters NOT nutbags?
Are both sides people NOT morons?
Is Trump NOT a cancer?
Unless you have something to add and refute my claim, kindly do fuck off with your grandstanding.
“Right wing nutbags” did not type out your comment. You did. If you can’t convey anger in a way that doesn’t straight-up insult people, all you’re doing is alienating people, and you really need to grow up.
I don’t give a shit about alienating people that see women as second class citizens and trans people as something to be destroyed.
You can feel good about yourself being “grown up”, I’ll rather support those than need it instead of grandstanding on lemmy like some douche.
Its often difficult, but important, to be respectful while disagreeing. You’ll find you alienate people a lot less, and win more converts if you do.
If its an outright bigoted comment tho, no need to respond: just downvote and report it, and move on.
Exactly. The vast majority of people aren’t brick walls, they’re literally people with their own experiences and set of knowledge. They’re all going to make decisions using that set because they literally don’t know what other people experience.
Holy shit.
“Work reform” my ass. It’s just a facade for full-blown communist revolution, which in my humble opinion is just a facade for “let’s break everything and replace it with something worse”.
My god. I sit here couching my thinly veiled calls for civil disobedience in “in minecraft” and “this is satire,” and here’s someone openly calling for a murder. Maybe next time I want to make a joke about billboard burning being a fun pastime for the whole family, I won’t be as afraid of getting a visit from the fun police
You can just say whatever you want on the internet. Watch this:
People who eat meat are murderers and deserve to be killed. It’ll reduce the number of murders overall.
See? It’s easy.
I don’t think people thought about it too much. But it shouldn’t be allowed, even if it’s a joke
with the american elections coming up, tensions are rising. Quite predictably so, really
Conflict bots?
It comes in waves. I don’t like the overly sensitive crap either though.
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I’ve noticed the comments becoming more and more hostile and a lot more argument than discussion recently.
Oh dear day three and this thread is still going and doubling in size.
Now you’ve made an enemy for life, buddy.
The enemy of my enemy… also enemy.
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Found the guy responsible.
What I said is true
Yeah, you are definitely contributing to the negativity. That is also true.
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Thanks, for making my point for me.
You’re welcome
See, not so difficult to be a good, polite boy. Have a treat.
Sorry guys, I got mad
I blame politics
The subject of the arguments is certainly politics (and war and religion), but the source of the arguments is strongly differing world views.
Despite what we’d like to believe about ourselves, humans are not well-adapted to being exposed to a wide variety of differing viewpoints. We evolved in small, racially and socially homogenous groups, for the most part. Up until the Industrial Revolution, the vast majority of humanity lived and died within 30 miles of where they were born, and only had daily interaction with what was essentially an extended family.
Travel, mass immigration, and the Internet changed all that. Being exposed to such a diversity of opinion on a daily basis quite simply breaks our brains. It causes a tremendous amount of internal conflict and stress, for some more than others. That constant strain becomes more intense when there is war, such as in Gaza and Ukraine, or particularly divisive politics. There are obviously some extremely contentious elections coming up, including the US election, which has tremendous global implications. There are, no doubt, people on Lemmy right now for whom the result of the US election is a matter of life and death, and yet they aren’t US citizens and can’t vote.
We should all take a chill pill and try to be less confrontational and use less emotionally-charged language when it comes to hot button issues. The politics and news subs are an avalanche of charged words and phrases like genocide, fascist, apartheid, Nazi, racist, transphobic, anti-gay, religious zealot, and many others. Those are fighting words. Deserved or not, words like that not only reflect, but also create, a lot of emotional dissonance and stress, which lead to emotionally charged arguments.
I blame someone else
Many will tell you this is normal and just how the internet is.
How depressing.
My suspicion is that a lot of redditors migrated over here about 7 months ago when certain apps shut down, including myself. At first, they were polite in an unfamiliar environment, but they’ve grown comfortable and act out, or speak less thoughtfully, like they originally did on Reddit.
Less about the sub and more aobut the world going to shit with the ultra aggressive companies and unchained immigration all over the first word from India, muslims and Africa.
unchained immigration all over the first word from India, muslims and Africa.
Racist much?Lmao it has nothing to do with immigration
