Zakopane, Poland. Greedy bastards.
Almost every reason given sounds like a description of my home of Florida.
Common tourist places during tourist season are usually the worst. I took a 10 day trip to Paris one summer and it was a mix of the most popular tourist places (Louvre, Eiffel tower, etc) and some underground shit my sister found.
Every tourist place was jam packed with annoying tourists, costly and had tons of scammers surrounding it. Every less known place was really awesome, aside from one sketchy neighborhood we had to walk through where we were followed for a while.
I’d also say that Northern Europe has generally been much more pleasant to travel through, for me.
Just make sure to avoid Brussels. Belgian myself and I hate the place.
Just got back from a 3 day trip to Brussels, we loved it. Plus, Smurfs (Les Schtroumpfs) everywhere. We did take a day trip to Bruges though, that was even better than Brussels IMHO. Especially since I could walk around saying to my wife “If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me but I didn’t, so it doesn’t.”.
Was recommended the same by someone from Brussels.
(He was not 6 foot and full of muscles, to be clear)
The vegemite sandwiches are enough to keep me away.
Back when Australia was still remote and exotic, before Crocodile Dundee even, a lot of people back in the day thought he sang:
“He just smiled and gave me a bit of my sandwich”,
which would have also made for a fantastic lyric in a very silly way.
Did he speaka your language?
Kinda enjoyed my 2 day trip…
Does this mean you love it and want to keep it all to yourself? Also how does it smell?
No, I would tell you to avoid Ghent at all costs then!
Na Ghent and Brugges are lovely. Brussels is kinda meh but not superbad.
I went to Charleroi once and it was awful. Brussels is fine.
Charleroi is super depressing indeed.
I visited Brussels this a month ago, I loved it.
I wanna move to Belgium. Not once have I considered Brussels as my new demeure. It’s got some cool stuff, but it has little to no revisit value.
Quite a lot of the cities in the Flemish region look absolutely beautiful (Bruges especially), yet everyone I know of just sees Brussels and thinks of it as all of Belgium, then comes to the conclusion that the entire country is basically rubbish.
But I personally think that Charleroi is way worse.
Bude. Don’t go to Bude. There is nothing to see there.
So, should I stay on the left side of France?
Hold up, let’s see what happens with the front populaire
Yeah, I’m not getting my hopes up unfortunately
Do get your hopes up, and your neighbours voting, please.
Who talks to their neighbors in this day and age? They’ll probably vote for the party who wants my death anyway so yeah…
I mean yeah sure we could be surprised, but things aren’t really going in the right direction
Honestly, I’ll vote for them. But they disgust me with all their power struggle about who’s going to be prime minister. In doing so, they’re tearing apart the whole thing. They swore that they wouldn’t betray us. They’re betraying us everyday by showing everybody it’s just a struggle between egos. They’re paving the way for the far right too with this ridiculous display of inflated heads.
I’ll vote for them, then I’ll puke. The only frontliner I’m feeling like supporting in the future is, maybe, Manon Aubry.
And Italy, and Switzerland, and Hungary, and Finland…
Here’s what I would avoid when traveling to Poland:
- Zakopane, it’s overpriced and very crowded. If you want to visit the area the town is in your better off staying in smaller villages, unless you have to use public transit.
- Szczecin --not an ‘avoid at all cost’ but more of a ‘there are better cities to visit’-- this-or-that part of the city is always being remodeled/reconstructed and there’s no ‘old city’ with day and night life focused between two shoping centers and some roundabouts in the city center. If you want to go sight-seeing Kraków, Wrocław or Gdańsk are much better choices.
- Mazury lake district, beautiful lakes and decent nightlife, shit infrastructure - roads are narrow (two bigger cars can’t pass eachother without going offroad) and often lacking sings and other markings
- Podlaskie Voivodship, even worse infrastructure than Mazury, it’s rural, mainly towns and villages with nothing a tourist might want to see. You might think it’s a good place to go star-gazing but Bieszczady are a lot better for that (Tho you should probably go to a Dark Sky Site for that, there’s one close to Bieszczady, in Slovakia)
- THE SEASIDE, it’s crowded, expensive, the sea is cold and it’s fumcking wimdy, go to like Italy, Croatia, Portugal or Spain instead
Also in general avoid capital cities, they are often the worst of major cites in a given country.
My wife an I were on a Roadtrip from Germany to Poland for a holiday and did go to a lot of beautiful places. But Zakopane is stuck in my mind as the most touristy place I did ever go to. The High Tatra mountains are still beautiful but we had to wait in line to even enter the hiking trails. And on the trails it was just hundreds of people trying to make photos without other people in the background.
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I forgot two places - both as bad as Zakopane - One is the Hel(l) Peninsula, it’s as overcrowded as Zakopane; but it has a single road (one lane each way) that gets jammed very fast, you can be stuck there like 5 hours, even though it’s only 30 Km long. The second one is Krynica Morska, a town located on the Vistula Spit(separating Vistula Lagoon from Gdańsk Bay, in the Baltic Sea) and it has the same problem as Hel - it’s a popular destination with only one road in and out.
Aberdeen. It smells like piss.
As one of said foreigners (an American) I’d say “all of them.” International travel is for people not living below the poverty line.
Helpful. Im glad you had something meaningful to contribute to the discussion.
I was disappointed with Paris in my last visit. It’s filthy, dirty and disgusting.
Aah, Paris 🥰
Compared to NYC, Paris is downright spotless.
There are over 40 nations in Europe. Most of which have 2000 years of individual history.
What kind of answer are you looking for, exactly ?
Reading the title, I would presume OP wants someone from one of those over 40 nations in Europe to say where tourists should avoid at all costs.
I mean - if you’ve been to Switzerland you know the answer is Switzerland.
OP is a close relative of “Hey everyone, I have 5 days to visit Europe, what’s the best route to see everything?”
Avoid French cities: people constantly harass you for money and drugs and it looks shady and feels uncomfortable everywhere. Smaller towns can be nice.
And Italy: it’s expensive, people are rude and arrogant and nearly every place I stayed at gave me a curfew so you can’t even go out at night (but there’s nothing to see there anyway).
Better avoid the whole of Europe to be safe.
Usually when hotels close past a certain time you can use a secondary entrance with your keys/card or at most call. Most hotels have a desk open 24h so this doesn’t even apply.
Also, I really don’t think Italians are generally rude. People are friendly, but also loud and warm, which often can be misunderstood. Assholes exist, obviously.
Usually, yes. But not where I stayed. It was all locked down. Maybe I just had bad luck. It was in Triest and Milan by the way.
Sorry, who gave you a curfew?
Several hostels I stayed at closed at 10 pm and wouldn’t allow people to go in or out
I’m always impressed by people projecting “arrogance” onto others, especially people you don’t shared a language with. Rude? Sure. Dismissive? Why not. But arrogant? How do you know? Did he give you a five page newsletter that extols his superiority? Are you a mind reader?
This comment doesn‘t hold any value anyway. Just bashing the people living there and then saying the whole country is shit.
Eastern Ukraine isn’t an ideal tourist spot at the moment.
The internet has broken my brain.
scnr is a new one on me and in an attempt to figure it out, my brain did not land on the now rather obvious “sorry, could not resist” but “skibidi cap no rizz” as some kind of ironic initialism
I’m gonna go and find some grass now
I read it as scenario ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I read it as scenery. Probably because the thread is about travel.
“smoke copium, non-resident”?
skibidi cap no rizz
our brains are mush fr 😭
git commit -m “Zoomer/alpha humor acronym database extended with new entry for scnr”
Russia in general also.
Poland
The green dots are all fascinating places that I’ve visited or want to visit in France
Note that none of them are in P🤮ris
Paris is pretty sweet - just, for the love of God, don’t fucking drive. The metro and easy access to long distance trains make it a pretty frequent stop for me.
Some people are into extreme sports. Driving in Paris can definitely be classified as such
Driving in Paris is crazy as hell, and I did drive a lot in European cities. Although the worst I’ve ever been to has to be Bucharest. People drive hyper-crazy in Romania.
Is it possible for you to share your list?
If you haven’t been to France before, make Carcassonne your first stop. It’s a wonderful village with an exceptional walled medieval hamlet.
I’m French ahah. But sometimes it’s nice to see your country from an outside perspective. Being a tourist in your own country can be interesting!
Just guessing by the username and domain, they probably heard of it!
Stopped there for a day on the way back from Spain. The walled Hamlet is beautiful, especially nice to stroll through the streets after dark.
Stay overnight next time! The town surrounding the citadel is actually really pleasant and one of the staples of cuisine local to that area is Cassoulet!
The board game isn’t bad either!
Can’t see a way to do it privately, sorry. Unless you know a way
